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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Fatty Gary Schofield talks a lot of shoite but he's right about Sneyd - he's useless with ball in hand and isn't fit to tie Williams' laces.
Thought Williams and Tomkins were great in the second half.
Who was the guy lost on holiday on the pitch in the second half? He was pulling his suitcase across the pitch and then I think he realised he had took a wrong turning somewhere.
You can't ask for more effort than was given in the second half just a little sad we didn't grab the the spoils late on when when Hull looked dead on their feet'"


Not sure that anyone has compared Sneyd to Williams, the later is obviously a much better player, but Sneyd is very important to us and allows Kelly to play, played well in all games except Catalan game this year. You got the momentum and we struggled to stop it, missed Houghton who is so important to us, we aren't at Wigans level to be able to cope with injuries to key players just yet.

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Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "Fella on the radio was adamant we should have had a pen for holding down in the dying minutes after Escare (I think) broke through, how did it look to you?'"


I know the one you mean but it was probably wishful thinking tbh as it was bang infront of the posts! I don't think Bentham gave a penalty all game for holding down (when does that ever happen these days?) so he was clearly in one of those moods.

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What a team, had we had gone right instead of left after the Escare/Gregson break we would have won it.

13 legit first teamers out against a good team. Incredible.

Players like Forsth, Davies and Marshall with tries, I'm a catagory A fan but had barely heard of these last year

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Went from possible Wakefieldesque debacle 2 mins into the 2nd half to gutted we didn't snatch it.
You have to give credit to Hull though, outstanding in attack in the first 40 mins and great scrambling defence in the end to save the game.
Really enjoyed that, great entertainment.

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Quote: Dave K. "Not sure that anyone has compared Sneyd to Williams, the later is obviously a much better player, but Sneyd is very important to us and allows Kelly to play, played well in all games except Catalan game this year. You got the momentum and we struggled to stop it, missed Houghton who is so important to us, we aren't at Wigans level to be able to cope with injuries to key players just yet.'"

I compared him to Williams and they are poles apart. Sneyd can kick off a tee but that's about it.
Your defence in the first half was spot on and eventually got you the two points.
Kelly looks a lot fitter than he was and has given you that bit of spark that will make the difference when your involved in a tight game.
I'm a massive Houghton fan and he undoubtedly was a major miss for you.
The return game should be a belter.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "I compared him to Williams and they are poles apart. Sneyd can kick off a tee but that's about it.
Your defence in the first half was spot on and eventually got you the two points.
Kelly looks a lot fitter than he was and has given you that bit of spark that will make the difference when your involved in a tight game.
I'm a massive Houghton fan and he undoubtedly was a major miss for you.
The return game should be a belter.'"


Not a fair comparison, Williams is the best player in SL and would stand out in the NRL, Sneyd has more to his game than kicking as he has shown this season, still needs to improve in areas though.

Nice words from you and your fellow fans, no doubt along with Cas, the best sides in the league.

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Quote: Dave K. "Not a fair comparison, Williams is the best player in SL and would stand out in the NRL, Sneyd has more to his game than kicking as he has shown this season, still needs to improve in areas though.

Nice words from you and your fellow fans, no doubt along with Cas, the best sides in the league.'"

We will struggle in the next few games and I wouldn't be surprised if we lost our next 3 games unless we get some bodies back. A good chance for you guys to open up a gap in the table.
I think top 4 in no order will be Cas Hull Saints and us with maybe Leeds jostling out Saints.
I've haven't really rated Griffin much before but he looked half decent tonight albeit he was breathing through his arris in the second half.

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Quote: apollosghost "Went from possible Wakefieldesque debacle 2 mins into the 2nd half to gutted we didn't snatch it.
You have to give credit to Hull though, outstanding in attack in the first 40 mins and great scrambling defence in the end to save the game.
Really enjoyed that, great entertainment.'"


I also thought we were on for a Wakefield and the problem was the team was just watching Hull play, stepping back and falling off tackles. They panicked. Add to an attack devoid of ideas (until about the last 12 minutes) and there looked there was nothing for us in that game. I felt the two disallowed tries were harsh. The touch judge was nowhere near the first one but the ref asked him about it and it looked grounded to me before he went out of play.

As someone else said we improved when Gells went off. He was not having a good game. I always think games like where things are going badly are not where he plays well. He tries to rescue it single handed and makes mistakes as a result.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "We will struggle in the next few games and I wouldn't be surprised if we lost our next 3 games unless we get some bodies back. A good chance for you guys to open up a gap in the table.
I think top 4 in no order will be Cas Hull Saints and us with maybe Leeds jostling out Saints.
I've haven't really rated Griffin much before but he looked half decent tonight albeit he was breathing through his arris in the second half.'"


I'm a bit more optimistic: I fully expect to lose both Cas games now, unless we get a lot back for the away game, end of April, but I still fancy us in all the others. Leeds are very beatable, even if we had tonight's lineup, as are Saints, and Wakey and Catalans should be no trouble unless we pick up yet more injuries.

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We got torn apart down Gelling's flank all 1st half. Forsyth was superb on the other side though, really assured performance from him. Saw him spew up after about 15 mins and thought he may have to go off but fair play he really got stuck in.
Big step forward for him tonight and along with Joel worthy of great praise.

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "We got torn apart down Gelling's flank all 1st half. '"


Been posted elsewhere he pulled his calf in warm up but Wane played him anyway. Not a good decision if true and ultimately cost the game. If it isn't then he was shown up.

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Quote: DaveO "Been posted elsewhere he pulled his calf in warm up but Wane played him anyway. Not a good decision if true and ultimately cost the game. If it isn't then he was shown up.'"



He did go down the tunnel during pre-warm up. Thought something was wrong at the time.

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Gelling was all over the place tonight. He made Griffin look a world beater. Not surprised he wasn't fit.
What an effort in that last 20 mins.
Hull were excellent in the first 40 but were out on their feet the last 15.
Wane and Winder both said some bodies back for next week. Perhaps whoever they are talking about might just have been able to play v Hull but weren't risked as they are such a huge side.

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Quote: MattyB "He did go down the tunnel during pre-warm up. Thought something was wrong at the time.'"


Well then I can't understand what Wane was thinking. Could have made the injury worse and he left a hole in that side if the team. It's not as if he didn't have options with Isa who has played centre and ultimately we looked better when Gelling went off. Could he not have withdrawn Gelling during the warm up for the non playing reserve to make up a full 17?

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Despite being big we are usually a very fit team. We won a lot of games last year by simply outlasting teams. Last night showed how important Houghton is. Thats a guy who would have made circa 60 tackles. Its a lot of extra work for the others to do. We also made a lot of daft errors towards the end when we should have just been going back to basics and closing it out.

All the credit in the world to your young team though. Never know when theyre beaten.

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