Was S.Tomkins playing better than Escare is now, prior to his most recent injury though? IMO no, which is the difference. Burgess and McIlorum were playing better than Tierney and Powell are now. If he plays well off the bench and Escare doesn't keep it up then obviously that's a different conversation. Playing off the bench may also benefit S.Tomkins as he won't feel the pressure of trying to win the game on his own, he can get his confidence back as a luxury player.

Given the injury situation Sam can't get back quick enough for me. It's unrealistic to expect the two rookie wingers to be consistent over a longer term. Sam to be eased in at FB, Escaré onto the wing IMO. The real fun starts if we ever get the back line fit!

People who hammer the standard of Super League fail to recognise that defence has improved immeasurably over time. And this - in my view - is why we see so many injuries in the modern game, that we didn't even ten years ago.

It's highly unlikely that we will see a full first 17 on any game day this season. So it is about having a squad capable of covering any emergency, which we proved last season. Thankfully we have players of the quality mentioned above. I'll let Waney worry about where to fit everyone in, if we have that sort of problem ever again.

Has it improved immeasurably since 2006? I'd say it's got worse myself and certainly not got immeasurably better in the last 10.

No doubt that 'Defence' has improved. The standard overall (attack, defence and entertainment) is debatable.

I think that the fitness levels have improved dramatically, and because of this the defence has got much better. Teams can now get three and more men in the tackle, slow down the ptb and still get back for the next one.

I think the defensive tactics have changed, but overall i don't teams are defensively better. I'd argue the attacking quality has severely diminished as has the standard of play. Now saying that if both yours and my statements are correct there should have been a lot more blow out scores 10 years ago right i.e. attack was better and the defence was worse?

That's not the case though is it? So the defence wasn't that bad.



Again has fitness improved dramatically in the last 10 years? Are guys like Lockers and Sam fitter than Faz and Radders? Tommy vs Lam or Gildart/Percival/Gelling/Moon/Watkins fitter than Gleeson, Senior or Lyon? Or is it just different tactics?

I don't think that when you compare players from 10 years ago to now there's a dramatic or immeasurable difference in their fitness or defensive capabilities. I do think they are coached a hell of a lot differently and play to a system completely different to anything seen back then as well.

Definitely not.

Escare looks like the bargain of the season, I can imagine fans of other teams wondering why they didn't try and sign him!

As others have said it is a good problem to have but based on current form I would prefer Escare remains at full back and I hope we manage to secure him on a longer contract asap.

There will be a long queue for his signature...

Honestly,one game on the bench for Tomkins and after that Escare will be "rested" don't know why its just a gut feeling the way it'll pan out.

As I said! (For once)! A simple decision. Sam and MM simply have to be given a chance to prove themselves. www.wigantoday.net/sport

As I said! (For once)! A simple decision. Sam and MM simply have to be given a chance to prove themselves. www.wigantoday.net/sport

Probably not going to happen but imagine this squad heading into the playoffs

Tomkins
Manfredi
Gelling
Gildart
Burgess
Williams
Lealuai
FPN
McIlorum
Flower
Farrell
Bateman
O'loughlin

Tautai
Clubb
Powell
Tomkins

Then the list of back ups!

Escare
Isa
Sutton
Tierney
Sharrocks et al

Best squad in the league!

No, Sam may have to target No7 and he could be
a star in that position. I remember the difference he
made when he came into the side at 6.
Thomas Leuluai will continue his influence at 9 but
he is getting near retirement I think. So there is a
future for Sam Powell.