Talent spotter by name only then

That sucks! I was really happy for Gelling when he was given a shot last night and he finished that try really well. That injury may well end his season though and he's out of contract after that.....

If Smith is out for a while then it's a massive test for Wane and what he's learned from last season and Tommy's injury.

Last season it was obvious that swapping a raft of players around to accommodate one missing #7 didn't work.

Lets hope that he gives one of the academy lads a run out. ATEOTD if they aren't good enough to step up in situations like this then we should have made sure we had adequate cover before the season start.

Wane on the Wigan Warriors sitehe is with us next year so he will have his time. On Matty he was shoulder charged and I was really disappointed with that."

Looks like hes signed a new deal.

Quote: FIOS "Just tweeted that he's popped his AC joint, anyone know how long this will put him out for? On the plus side, a great opportunity for Sam Powell.'" Depends if he damaged ligaments and/or tendons. It can be anything from a couple of weeks to months. Good website www.shoulderdoc.co.uk/ run by a top surgeon (fixed my shoulder for me)

Quote: FIOS "Just tweeted that he's popped his AC joint, anyone know how long this will put him out for? On the plus side, a great opportunity for Sam Powell.'" Depends if he damaged ligaments and/or tendons. It can be anything from a couple of weeks to months. Good website www.shoulderdoc.co.uk/ run by a top surgeon (fixed my shoulder for me)

Terrible joint for injuries, i'll need a need joint in the next ten years

I'd done my AC ligaments, still suffer from it now occasionally, was agony for months. He has good physios available who'll help him though.

He'll be fine. 3 weeks maximum

seen him in pub today with his girlfriend is looks ok just a black eye moving his arm ok

If he is injured, and misses games, it might be interesting to hear from people who were disappointed that the shoulder charge was made illegal.

Just playing devils advocate.. :~)

It was late, but he was not hit with a rolled up newspaper...

Didn't say he was. As long as a shoulder charge is legal, it can be a thing of beauty. If it's late or an attack to the head then it can also be very dangerous. Much like most aspects of our sport.

We had a similar conversation at the Huddersfield versus Warrington match on Sunday.

There's a definite difference between using the shoulder forcefully and effectively in defence and a shoulder charge that's reckless and dangerous.

I sort of understand why the "shoulder charger" has been banned, but I've seen a few penalties since the implementation that were, for want of a better phrase, a bit soft. Even Brett Hodgson got penalised for one yesterday and it was the best tackle I've seen him make since he started playing over here!

Tommy L had it mastered and it was a wonderful sight. However a few too many people arent skillful enough to do it and try and be a big man only for it to be a direct head shot.