the end of the first half when we got two consecutive drop outs we realised the extra man was doing us in and went for kicks. then sam scores at the end of the second half from his own kick. agreed that during our dominant period in the second half we needed more imagination though.

I'd like to see Finch take the line on more like Tommy does. He did it once during the Saints game and he made a break, no support and then fumbled the ball (or there might have been a hand in). Point is Saints weren't expecting it and he made the break. Our halfbacks need to take the line on more.

I agree we have become too predictable but this can work to our advantage. If we go through some plays that are out of the norm then we'll really throw our opposition off. Even something as simple as Tommy/Finch throwing a dummy rather than passing to Sam. Or if the opposition rush out of the line to get to close the space around Tomkins, kick behind the defence for Josh/Pat to chase.

I agree it's worrying that we only have one - clear as day - move really.

Nothing will change now though.
We will see how the playoffs pan out - Wire will walk it.

Then we will see how our new HB partnership does things next year...

Correct.

Only after deafeat to these types of threads apperar

Just like last season.

Disagree, it's not just after one defeat. Many posters including myself have highlighted this for months. I guess some posters/fans like to turn a blind eye to it or simply can't understand the structures of attacking RL, recognising our one play attack.

Should i bother asking you again for your suggestions, or are you happy just standing stamping your virtual feet like a 6 year old.... Please just tell us, educate us...

He's not the coach! It's plain obvious to 90% of us that don't kiss pictures of Shaun wane before we go to bed that our attack is predictable and needs to change. However if I or the other poster knew the answer and were taking training sessions I'd probably be on half a million a year driving a range rover, however I'm not, Shaun wane is though

I disapprove of your childish insults, stamping your virtual feet like a six year old? you're clearly just after an argument with such offensive comments.

I was actually looking for past posts I've made regarding said topic, which I am happy to discuss with adults, not people who come out with such insulting disrespectful comments.

For what it's worth this was my post after the Wire game...

"Beaten, bullied, out played.

Our attack seems highly predictable, seems to be the same movement every week, half/dummy runner to half/dummer runner to Sam linking up from the back causing a 3 v 2 overlap with Daz and Josh on his outside. From this we seem to get either Sam dummy and go, pass to Daz or cut out ball to Josh. (Of course this movement is evident on the other side of the pitch with George etc).
9/10 it works against lesser teams. its fast and with Sam's ability we score from it. But against a good coach it becomes transparent. Wire easily cancelled out our best attacking weapon (Sam) simply by having JM cut in and stop the moment when Sam is about to take on the ball. Regardless of such predictably there was no plan B.

In contrast when St George were coached by Wayne Bennett they perfected the moment whereas the defence had no idea who was going to run, who was going to be the dummy runner and who was going to finish with the ball.

They used Soward to break away, from here the defence would not know if he's going to take on the line or pass, with this he had a SR Ben Creagh alongside with Cooper and Morris as an attacking centre/winger partnership. To add another threat Boyd joined the line from FB. At this point any of the mentioned could be the ball carrier, anyone the dummy runner. When the 5 attack down the flank in a line the 3/4 of the opposition would be scared to death of what was going to come next.

We don't have such movement, we look predictable, basically cancel Sam and you've stopped our attack, with StG if Boyd was stopped one of the others would be still a threat.

I think we have the players to create something different, the drills need to be practised and coached, I barely see any other pattern, we play into the oppositions hands.

Warrington like to throw the 'first punch' hit us hard and keep on the pressure from the get-go, the opposition tire from tackle after tackle and become vulnerable and exposed, and of course when you're tired you are more likely to make mistakes. This happened, it's almost as if Wane fires up certain players so much they lose their heads, case in point Micky.

This season Micky has proven his ability as a top 9, however, at times, when fired up he seems more concerned with intensity and letting us all know how 'ard he is' rather than keeping a cool head. If he was a backrower it would be different, but as a 9 you must have composure and awareness, I for one have never ever seen Cam Smith lose his cool, today of all days, playing with just a single 9 he had to be so in-control, I feel he wasn't, (at one point he was rolling on the floor with Moz to show us how 'ard he is'.
This created such a negative impact, at times when we needed to generate momentum getting on a roll with the forwards we never did, Micky wasn't at the races. If he cooled down and became a 'game leader' rather that an enforcer we'd would have had more chance of winning the arm-wrestle.

The forwards were rattled, Wire brought an 'origin esque' attitude, a winning mentality which has been inspired by their coach and key on on field leaders, Morley showed his calibre and leadership which Hill followed with great effect. Westwood showed his winning desire and played for his life. Excellent mentality throughout.
In opposition to this who are actually our leaders? Lockers, love him, great player, but leader? Undecided. We have some excellent props but who's the enforcer/leader? If one of the props matched Morley maybe Micky wouldn't feel the need to enforce from 9. Eric for me was the best player, he brought it, pity Mossop didn't stand up, and I think it's about time Prescott was pushed to one side for other props, can't remember seeing a prop lose the ball so much on impact. Lima worked hard but he needs more support.
Hock is 'origin' in his approach but seems to have trouble raising intensity without losing his head, with this Wane panics and takes him off.

We don't seem mentally ready. Maybe Wane's I'll shout them down get angry until they play better approach isn't always the best way to deal with a beaten team. We almost seem nervous and afraid of Wire, we shouldn't be.

It's time for a plan B, more options in attack with a strong steel mentality which shows no fear, no backing down. Won't lose our heads or temperament but we'll tackle so hard they will be scared to take the line on."

Thank you..

And? You've insulted to have my thoughts and now you've gotten them. So what are your thoughts now? I clearly have pointed out a post from a while back highlighting the issues, so what do you think?

See how I can ask without insulting?

Our one-play attack that's scored almost 1000 points in SL, 150 more than our nearest rivals, and 150 more than last season (and missing our best winger & best half-back for half the season). I'll settle for that.

Only thing I would change is to get Sam & Tommy to support the fowards a lot more and receive a few offloads a bit like maguire at leeds. Wigans forward attack is sometimes rigid to the point of " take the tackle and wait for a set play" which can be fine but in play off games we need a little bit more off the cuff stuff and we have the boys to do it.