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| Quote: cadoo "We're not building pressure. Everytime we're close to the oppositions line on the last tackle we try to score with a kick to the corner - when has that come off this season? Or on a consistent basis? It hasn't. Usually leads to us conceding a penalty!
Grubber behind the line. Build pressure and keep composed. Tommy has a short kicking game as does Finch - use it! You don't have to score off every play.'"
Agreed. Did we even try to get a repeat set last night? Some of the decisions that were taken at key times were baffling to say the least.
Also why did we keep attacking down the left in the 2nd half when Richards was injured and wouldnt have been able to finish a half chance anyway. Our right hand attack has been lethel this season but Goulding and Charnley may as well have been sat in the stands having a cup of tea for the amount of ball they got. There were a few times we had overlaps, indeed there was one occasion in the 2nd half when we had something like a 5 on 2, and we never went that way. If it did some forward invariably got in the way who then simply trundled it up. When the pressure was on we showed a lack of RL brains and we needed someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck but no one did.
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| Quote: Famous " In contrast Briers as much as I dislike him, started to boss Warrington about and dictate play.'"
if he has this effect on you...he's doing his job well....see every class scrum half, stand off etc in history..hated by the opposition...adored by their own fans.
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| Quote: cadoo "We're not building pressure. Everytime we're close to the oppositions line on the last tackle we try to score with a kick to the corner - when has that come off this season? Or on a consistent basis? It hasn't. Usually leads to us conceding a penalty!
Grubber behind the line. Build pressure and keep composed. Tommy has a short kicking game as does Finch - use it! You don't have to score off every play.'"
I started a thread last year on this very subject because I was baffled and annoyed at why we never use the Grubber kick to try and force a repeat set. It's a bomb to Richards each and every time.
Quote: cadoo "Agreed. Did we even try to get a repeat set last night? Some of the decisions that were taken at key times were baffling to say the least.
Also why did we keep attacking down the left in the 2nd half when Richards was injured and wouldnt have been able to finish a half chance anyway. Our right hand attack has been lethel this season but Goulding and Charnley may as well have been sat in the stands having a cup of tea for the amount of ball they got. There were a few times we had overlaps, indeed there was one occasion in the 2nd half when we had something like a 5 on 2, and we never went that way. If it did some forward invariably got in the way who then simply trundled it up. When the pressure was on we showed a lack of RL brains and we needed someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck but no one did.'"
Totally agree. It's Tommy and Finch's job to get that ball out wide and they failed, and it cost us the game.
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| Quote: cadoo "We're not building pressure. '"
Exactly right.
We had more than enough field position to win that last night, just lacked the composure needed at the right end of the pitch.
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| I can't believe some of the comments on this thread. I thought your attacking play was outstanding and finch a real danger.
under sw your attacking play has gone up massively. as much as i don't want to say this, i thought overall you were
the better side and still can't believe we won.
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| I too cant understand some of the comments. I thought for the most part Finch was excellent although his long kicking game was shocking at times. He was putting people into gaps all over the place. it was a credit to Warringtons last ditch tackling/defence that we didnt score another 3 or 4 trys. On another night we would of won that game.
I was disappointed with Tommy. I thought he was well below par and looked to be carrying a knock.
Although Lauaki's penalty ultimately lost us the game i think its unfair to pin all of the blame on him. Yes it was stupid at a critical moment but if Monagans try had been ruled out for obstruction as Charnleys was V Leeds for a similar offence and if Briers had been rightly picked up offside for his try then we would be celebrating a win. Lets also not forget we missed a few kicks at goal that had they gone over we would of won or at least drawn.
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| Still not moved on with the kicking game for the last 2 seasons. We seem to be very predictable on the 5th tackle, kick to the opposition full back. No deep kick behind the full back , no kick between the full back and the winger turning them around no grubber near the line ( only over hit kicks Tomkins and o loughlin )
Just notice how many times hodgson had to move to field our kicks last night. Check Briers kicking game as opposed to ours.
Need to focus on the kicking game IMO.
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| Quote: cadoo "We're not building pressure. Everytime we're close to the oppositions line on the last tackle we try to score with a kick to the corner - when has that come off this season? Or on a consistent basis? It hasn't. Usually leads to us conceding a penalty!
Grubber behind the line. Build pressure and keep composed. Tommy has a short kicking game as does Finch - use it! You don't have to score off every play.'"
Couldn't agree more.
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| How many injured players played on in last nights match ? Pat was injured for most if not all the match. Was he fit to start ?
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| He got hurt in the collision with Tomkins.
Why neither of them just called for the ball, I do not know...
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| Thought Tommy was really poor last night. He's a cracking player but he's a 9 IMO and to have him alongside Finch leaves us with both a lack of pace and a kicking game in the halfs.
I'd consider bringing Sam in to stand off at Salford with Russell going in at fullback just to freshen it up a little. It won't solve the kicking issues but we'll have pace going at Salford from all angles.
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| I'm slightly worried by our predictability.........
We always try to clear our lines through the forwards making the hard yards when the defensive line is flying up to meet us. Try a long kick ffs!
But we wait untill the fullback and wingers have dropped back to do that
When did we last hit a 40/20 or a chip over the top?
All to predictable At the minute
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| Quote: wiganstu "
When did we last hit a 40/20 '"
Well to my knowledge we haven't kicked a single one yet and we're seven rounds in. However just when I was going to begin bemoaning that fact, I checked the SL website to see that only three sides have kicked a 40/20 this year, everyone else including ourselves have yet to kick one.
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| Quote: cadoo "We're not building pressure. Everytime we're close to the oppositions line on the last tackle we try to score with a kick to the corner - when has that come off this season? Or on a consistent basis? It hasn't. Usually leads to us conceding a penalty!
Grubber behind the line. Build pressure and keep composed. Tommy has a short kicking game as does Finch - use it! You don't have to score off every play.'"
agreed. and even if it doesn't come off and they start on their own 5 yard line... our defence is so good/fast we can keep them in their own 30 usually anyway!
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| we need to look at the pressure we put on teams during the match.we think we have to score off every set.the only time we have got it spot on this season was against catalans.building pressure slowly and not giving needless penalties away usually wins matches
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