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Quote: nohalfbacks "Didn't we used to have a centre called George somebody? icon_wink.gif

As you say, the lad's taking his chance and that's all he can do. Ultimately what he's been doing won him this contract, what he does next determines whether the club will exercise the option on the remaining two years. He's the master of his own destiny and while he wants to play for Wigan, I wish him very well.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Although I think Hughes has done his job. Lets not forget we are now down to the bare bones at centre. Gleeson left, then Tomkins left. George is now injured.

I am chuffed he has got a deal to stay at the club, he goes about his work really well. However, I don't think he has the pace or the skill to be a really good centre. Just compare him to Bridge and Atkins at wire.

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I like all the leadership qualities attributed to the lad. Smart move. A very promising player. Hopefully he gets a shot in the second row this week against Widnes.

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Quote: Odem "Although I think Hughes has done his job. Lets not forget we are now down to the bare bones at centre. Gleeson left, then Tomkins left. George is now injured.

I am chuffed he has got a deal to stay at the club, he goes about his work really well. However, I don't think he has the pace or the skill to be a really good centre. Just compare him to Bridge and Atkins at wire.'"

It is unfair to compare him with Bridge and Atkins as they are seasoned pros.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: nohalfbacks "It is unfair to compare him with Bridge and Atkins as they are seasoned pros.'"


Even in his earlier years though, Atkins had bags of pace. Bridge has played at 6 before so he has a far superior skill set even when he was younger.

Hughes doesn't have pace, he isn't a really skillfull player. He works hard, all points to a backrower for me. Joel Tomkins was the opposite, playing in the backrow and yet he was quicker than a lot of outside backs with the skills to match.

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Was confused with his selection ahead of Gelling for the Leeds game, but other than a few errors in the first half on Sunday (not the only one) he's been superb.

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Quote: Odem "Even in his earlier years though, Atkins had bags of pace. Bridge has played at 6 before so he has a far superior skill set even when he was younger.

Hughes doesn't have pace, he isn't a really skillfull player. He works hard, all points to a backrower for me. Joel Tomkins was the opposite, playing in the backrow and yet he was quicker than a lot of outside backs with the skills to match.'"


He's quicker than he looks, I've seen him score a few for the U20s where he's outpaced some pretty quick opposition players, including that one in the GF v Wire. Not as fast as Joel, I agree, but still no slouch.

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Quote: WigansForeignLegion "How dare you be so positive when amongst DaveO's gloom?!
He was actually being negative. Read it again. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Odem "Although I think Hughes has done his job. Lets not forget we are now down to the bare bones at centre. Gleeson left, then Tomkins left. George is now injured.

I am chuffed he has got a deal to stay at the club, he goes about his work really well. However, I don't think he has the pace or the skill to be a really good centre. Just compare him to Bridge and Atkins at wire.'"


Hardest thing to master at centre is defence, when to come out of the line and when to stay. Cock this up and even if the centre doesn't look daft, his winger usually does. So far he's done brilliantly. If putting him in at centre was meant to be a stop gap, I'd say it's working well and we may have found a gem for the future. SW and IL seem to think so with the award of this contract.

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Quote: Odem "Even in his earlier years though, Atkins had bags of pace. Bridge has played at 6 before so he has a far superior skill set even when he was younger.

Hughes doesn't have pace, he isn't a really skillfull player. He works hard, all points to a backrower for me. Joel Tomkins was the opposite, playing in the backrow and yet he was quicker than a lot of outside backs with the skills to match.'"


Joel was a fairly poor centre. Definitely didn't have nous for that position. Atkins, despite all the years he's played at centre still isn't very good. He's a big, strong fast bloke but not blessed with too much skill. Bridge is a good un and Hughes isn't at his level yet but from his performances so far, he deserves the chance to make centre position his own.

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A long contract is great. If he's not working out and another club wants him enough there are ways out of it, which usually includes a transfer fee in Wigan's favour.

It's good business.

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Quote: Ovavoo "Joel was a fairly poor centre. Definitely didn't have nous for that position. Atkins, despite all the years he's played at centre still isn't very good. He's a big, strong fast bloke but not blessed with too much skill. Bridge is a good un and Hughes isn't at his level yet but from his performances so far, he deserves the chance to make centre position his own.'"

I agree in terms of JT, I think people have rose tinted glasses in terms of Joel's tenure at centre - he has a bit more pace than most backrowers, but his defensive positioning, awareness and decision making in the centre postion left a lot to be desired. I also think people over-emphasise his attacking skill set - he took the wrong option in attack far too often and his final passes were wayward on many occasions.

So far I've been more impressed in terms of Hughes transition to the centre position. His attacking game may be a work in progress with potential, however defensively he looks solid and that is the important basis for any decent centre which assists the confidence in his winger.

As far as Atkins is concerned I disagree - he is developing into a real threat in attack and his defence has improved significantly since his initial turnstile days at Wakefield.

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I don't think anyone on this board had an exagerated view of Joel at centre.
In fact most if not all felt that if he had stayed then he should have been moved back to 2nd row and the club go and purchase a No3.
Joel didn't remain at centre and the club didn't buy a 3 but went with Goulding.
All in all it's worked out quite well really.
And how much did the club get in transfer fee for Joel?

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