BTW why wasnt Phelps playing yesterday after being one of the better players on the pitch on Thursday?

He was injured.

guessed so, even Nobby wouldnt have dropped him in place of Pryce

they've said all along that 2010 is the year so they've obviously (hopefully) lined up the stand off and 2 props that will be needed.

yet in the meantime the team serve up dross on the pitch and the fans get charged more for the privelege???

some people say we have some outstanding young props .. thats a matter of opinion and i for one do not think our 2 young props are by any means outstanding. along with fielden ,prescot cant hack it with the big boys and ocarrol for all his affort has just not got the size and against the bigger men he just has no real impact . for me the front row need a whole new look and the backs then might start to perform

Our young props are not outstanding.

Fair to middling is a better description.


OC is too small to be anything more, Prescott may develop but atm is average.


Fielden has lost it big style and Feka is a luxury that we can only afford with at least 1 more "workhouse" prop to set the platform for him.

I blame the salary cap

Ahem, Communist Cap you mean!

I think I have just split my sides.

Do you do childrens parties?

Look at the players in our pack. IMO only 3 of them are big enough/strong enough to do their jobs effectively - Feka, Hock and Lockers.

Joel looks a big lad for his age as well in fairness but needs to grow some more in the next 5 years to be outstanding.

Our others - Bailey, Hansen, Eamon, Preccy and Fielden aren't big enough!

If I was conditioning at Wigan I'd want all of these lot to put some size on. Prescott has the frame to be a massive 18 stoner in the mould of a Jason Ryles but I reckon he's more like 16, he's got the legs of a spider. It might be too late in their careers for Bailey and Fielden so I'd expect them to see out their careers as poor to average players from now.

Eamon I'm not sure but can hardly see him putting too much more weight on and I can't see him at Wigan in 5 years time.

Hansen could put another half stone on for me and still keep the same athleticism.



Edit - Forgot about Coley (which says alot of what you need to know!) who, whilst isn't oustanding, is at least big and has outperformed the other lately.

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing? You seriously don't think this was planned do you or something that happened despite the fact we have been having poor results?

The problem with recruiting Roberts was he arrived a year early. This meant it wasn't part of the master plan to get him here this year but when he became available early we took him anyway. That filled up the quota and put his wage on the salary cap.

If we had failed to take him early and as a result we didn't get him for 2010 why would that have been a disaster? Phelps, Pryce, Roberts and Gleeson are all recruits ion the 3/4 when we needed a prop.

The only conclusion I can come to is IL and or BN concluded our current props are up to the task despite the fact it's been obvious they have not been since 2007.




Who is available? Anyone for the right transfer fee is my guess. If we can't fit them under the cap then given our obsession with backs that is possible reason and that is down to the new management team, not the old regime.

Dave

That's a different issue, it takes time to build a team in the salary cap era. Spare a thought for Warrington who are going to be rebuilding for 3 years.