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| Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "Excellent post.'"
It's only an excellent post, if the team learns from it, and if Wane learns from it.
Time will tell the tale, are we good enough in single games where it matters, is Wane capable of getting this team doing something different?
Now before you call me a muppet because I don't come on here complaining every week (posting the same frustrating posts every week is as monotonous as watching us play), my views haven't changed from around this time last year when our attack just went stale. Irrespective of results, out efforts with ball in hand, options, creativity, variation, we have gone backwards, to the point now we can't actually get any worse. People repeat we will be fine once we get players back, we had good team out Friday and played the worst game of RL I've seen from Wigan in a very long time.
Please explain how you think we are going to improve as a team, don't mention returning players, explain how Wane is going to transform our attack with whatever players he has available. I'll quite happily discuss this with anyone, without name calling, a purely RL based discussion.
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| Quote: ChrisA "It's only an excellent post, if the team learns from it, and if Wane learns from it.
Time will tell the tale, are we good enough in single games where it matters, is Wane capable of getting this team doing something different?
Now before you call me a muppet because I don't come on here complaining every week (posting the same frustrating posts every week is as monotonous as watching us play), my views haven't changed from around this time last year when our attack just went stale. Irrespective of results, out efforts with ball in hand, options, creativity, variation, we have gone backwards, to the point now we can't actually get any worse. People repeat we will be fine once we get players back, we had good team out Friday and played the worst game of RL I've seen from Wigan in a very long time.
Please explain how you think we are going to improve as a team, don't mention returning players, explain how Wane is going to transform our attack with whatever players he has available. I'll quite happily discuss this with anyone, without name calling, a purely RL based discussion.'"
I honestly don't know how to answer that, I'm no more than a fan and can't pretend to be an expert on the game. There are far better posters on here than me who could give a more nuanced explanation; all I know is the management have gotten results in the past and I believe they can again.
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| Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "I honestly don't know how to answer that, I'm no more than a fan and can't pretend to be an expert on the game. There are far better posters on here than me who could give a more nuanced explanation; all I know is the management have gotten results in the past and I believe they can again.'"
Is that your official statement Mr Wane.....
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| Quote: jonh "Disagree Dave O I expect us to batter Hull next week. Again not a good indication of the standard this year.'"
i don`t think so.you only beat us by 1 point at KC,and we beat you by 14 at your place.
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| Quote: ChrisA "It's only an excellent post, if the team learns from it, and if Wane learns from it.
Time will tell the tale, are we good enough in single games where it matters, is Wane capable of getting this team doing something different?
Now before you call me a muppet because I don't come on here complaining every week (posting the same frustrating posts every week is as monotonous as watching us play), my views haven't changed from around this time last year when our attack just went stale. Irrespective of results, out efforts with ball in hand, options, creativity, variation, we have gone backwards, to the point now we can't actually get any worse. People repeat we will be fine once we get players back, we had good team out Friday and played the worst game of RL I've seen from Wigan in a very long time.
Please explain how you think we are going to improve as a team, don't mention returning players, explain how Wane is going to transform our attack with whatever players he has available. I'll quite happily discuss this with anyone, without name calling, a purely RL based discussion.'"
Finally somebody hits the nail on the head. Wigan have not put a single 80 minute performance in all season. Yes we've suffered with injuries but no matter who has taken to the field, we have never played well for a full game.
We played some decent rugby against Cas in the 1st half of the cup game but dropped off in the 2nd half. Same v Leeds at Magic and same v Catalan and Saints away.
Our attack has not fired at all. We just can't break down a decent defence that has worked out our move! Our ball control is poor, our passing accuracy has been awful at times with far too many balls going to ground. Our long kicking game goes down the fullbacks throat far too often and our discipline is horrendous! All this just means we give up too much easy possession and field position.
I don't think Saints are a good side but they were far better than we were on Friday. Our league position is unbelievable when you consider the standard of rugby we've churned out all year and it just papers over the cracks. We were very lucky to gets last gasp wins away at Huddersfield, Salford at home and Wakey (other close games too) and our points for column tells the story for me.
I'd never write us off but it's hard to see how we could beat Hull on Friday unless for the first time this year, everything finally clicks and we can nail a decent 80 minute performance. I really hope we can but I'm not holding my breath!
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| I can't disagree with any of that. Too often we've been reliant on a solo effort from Williams or Gildart to see us over the line, but that should be the icing on an already decent cake. We have no cake, just crumbs!
Saints are not a good side (even/especially their own fans agree!), and Hull are objectively a much better team. But as you say, Saints didn't have any problems nullifying us on Friday. Which wasn't hard, to be fair.
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| Quote: Ashton Bears "When we were loosing 4-10 we had the chance to take two points to make it 6-10 and ball back but no we ran it and Saints scored to make it 4-16. We had several chances to take two but we never once took them, Saints took theirs, what numb rugby we played yesterday.'"
I'd be seriously questioning our coaching if we went for two when losing by more than two (unless it was seconds before half time).
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| As it stands there's not a shred of evidence that FC are any better than the perennial big game bottlers of recent seasons, Huddersfield. Decent discipline and minimal errors might well be all you need.
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| Quote: Clearwing "Decent discipline and minimal errors might well be all you need.'"
No chance of either of those at the moment.
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| Hull have enough big game experience amongst them, especially in the forwards to carry them through - I just can't see anyway of them bottling it. They're far and away the best team this year.
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| Quote: secondstanza "Hull have enough big game experience amongst them, especially in the forwards to carry them through - I just can't see anyway of them bottling it. They're far and away the best team this year.'"
They are deservedly top, far and away the best team though? Nah.
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| Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "They are deservedly top, far and away the best team though? Nah.'"
Who is Shaun..Yours maybe..
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| Quote: Ziggy Stardust "Who is Shaun..Yours maybe..
Why are you following me round like a fart?
FWIW I think Hull have clearly been the best team, just "far and away" is a bit hyperbolic.
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| Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "Why are you following me round like a fart?
FWIW I think Hull have clearly been the best team, just "far and away" is a bit hyperbolic.'"
Just commenting on your nonsense Shaun.
Give it up and get the team ready for the semi we need to win.
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| Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "Why are you following me round like a fart?
FWIW I think Hull have clearly been the best team, just "far and away" is a bit hyperbolic.'"
When you've finished top by 1 point it is daft to say we have been far and away the best.
That said, we've been very good against the fellow top teams. We've played 10 times against the top 5 teams, and won 9. Even the defeat should really have been a draw if not for a Liam Watts brain explosion. Alot of them were very straightforward wins too.
I think we have shown we have the ability to win these big games. It remains to be seen whether we have the temperament for the big games. However whilst this is uncharted territory for the club, there are plenty of players in the squad that have done everything there is to do in the game.
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