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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"
Okay, I'll accept the reprimand.
Perhaps I should just hang fire on this debate until the end of the season. If we've won nothing by then, I too will feel frustrated by Wane. On the other hand, if we've won the Challenge Cup and/or the Grand Final, then it's the Wane skeptics who'll look pretty foolish.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"
I think the skeptics would still be unhappy with Wane to be honest, though winning the LLS two years on the trot would be quite an achievement for most fans of professional sport.
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Fans of any football/cricket team would be laughing themselves silly at some of the posts on here. You only have to read the Leeds boards to know what they think of Brian McDermott over the last two seasons. Of course it all went well for them in the end but deep down they know that Wigan and Warrington are /were better teams.
For anyone who really thinks finishing fifth and winning the GF is a better team than that which finished top of the league and losing in a cup semi ~ well, that way lies insanity.
All this nonsense about peaking at the end of the season is what Brian Noble used to argue, and look what everyone on here thought of him.
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"For anyone who really thinks finishing fifth and winning the GF is a better team than that which finished top of the league and losing in a cup semi ~ well, that way lies insanity.'"
Conveniently ignoring that they beat Catalans (4th), us (1st) and Warrington (2nd) in consecutive weeks in knock out games. IMO Leeds would have won last year under any play off system, and I think a champion team should be the one that beats the best in all or nothing games, not the one that is best at beating poor opposition week after week.
Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"All this nonsense about peaking at the end of the season is what Brian Noble used to argue, and look what everyone on here thought of him.'"
It makes absolute sense under this system. The problem is Noble's teams didn't manage to peak at the end of the season like Leeds do, they got beat in the semis. Having said that I think of Noble very highly, he took us from being nailed-on for relegation halfway through '06 to semi finals in '07-'09. We were only 4 points off the final too in the latter two seasons. Do others really have such a poor view of him? |
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Conveniently ignoring that they beat Catalans (4th), us (1st) and Warrington (2nd) in consecutive weeks in knock out games. IMO Leeds would have won last year under any play off system, and I think a champion team should be the one that beats the best in all or nothing games, not the one that is best at beating poor opposition week after week.
It makes absolute sense under this system. The problem is Noble's teams didn't manage to peak at the end of the season like Leeds do, they got beat in the semis. Having said that I think of Noble very highly, he took us from being nailed-on for relegation halfway through '06 to semi finals in '07-'09. We were only 4 points off the final too in the latter two seasons. Do others really have such a poor view of him?'"
And aren't you conveniently forgetting that whilst Leeds had a warm up game at home to wakey Catalan had all the fight smashed out of them at the DW. Just reward for being a better league team than Leeds? |
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"And aren't you conveniently forgetting that whilst Leeds had a warm up game at home to wakey Catalan had all the fight smashed out of them at the DW. Just reward for being a better league team than Leeds?'"
Swings and roundabouts. We easily mauled Les Cats at home, had a week off, then still got beat by Leeds who had beat Wakey then won a real tough close game away at Les Cats back to back in the same time. The only way Leeds wouldn't have won the league last year is if there were no form of play offs at all. They won the big knock out games against the top teams three weeks in a row, which is what it would always come down to. |
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"It makes absolute sense under this system. The problem is Noble's teams didn't manage to peak at the end of the season like Leeds do, they got beat in the semis. Having said that I think of Noble very highly, he took us from being nailed-on for relegation halfway through '06 to semi finals in '07-'09. We were only 4 points off the final too in the latter two seasons. Do others really have such a poor view of him?'"
I seem to remember that in all of the Noble years (excluding 06) Wigan completed the season in a lack luster position and peaked to get to a point well above were the league position would have had Wigan. The fact that the team simply didn't have the ability to keep the peak against better sides going doesn't remove the fact that the team peaked and punched above it's weight. |
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Conveniently ignoring that they beat Catalans (4th), us (1st) and Warrington (2nd) in consecutive weeks in knock out games. IMO Leeds would have won last year under any play off system, and I think a champion team should be the one that beats the best in all or nothing games, not the one that is best at beating poor opposition week after week.'"
correct sir 
us rhinos fans can't wait for the next side to win a gf from 5th although i personally don't believe it will ever happen again nor will winning 3 gf's in a row....unless we do it again this season |
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Just posted this on the signings page but a mate of mine has just spoke to Waney after the game today, apparently hes said he is off to New Zealand Warriors at the end of the season.
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| Quote NSmart96="NSmart96"Just posted this on the signings page but a mate of mine has just spoke to Waney after the game today, apparently hes said he is off to New Zealand Warriors at the end of the season.'"
Was it the same mate who gave you this inside scoop last year?
Quote NSmart96="NSmart96"My sisters boyfriend was talking to Ian Leneghan at the game on Saturday. They're looking at 2 stand offs, from England..... No aussie signings this year unless they're cheap and young. George Carmont definitely retiring, his body is knackered. Finchy on the verge of retiring..... I've also heard Pat Richards could be signing for Sale.'" |
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Was it the same mate who gave you this inside scoop last year?
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As if you found that!
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