FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Big Announcement |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12860 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
-
sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
-
Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
-
the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
-
Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
-
Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
-
FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg |
|
| Quote: FearTheVee "Agreed, but part of the reason MM has been so successful is he brought the latest techniques over from a champion club like Melbourne. The question is - will Wane be good enough to evolve Wigan's style of play once the game moves on (which it does, frequently and quickly, with the introduction of new coaches and new interpretations, together with other teams wising up to a certain style of play).
He may well be BTW, I haven't got a clue! But it's not a leap of faith to attribute your recent improvement to Maguire, nor is it a lepa of faith to suggest that you might suffer from losing what is obviously a tremendous head coach.
I like having British coaches though, so I grudgingly wish him well.'"
THIS!
Just to add, there are other great coaches like Brian Noble who have won everything, thesedays they are well behind people like Smith and Maguire.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1438 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2016 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
47567_1459269569.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47567.jpg |
|
| Quote: EastStandFaithful "The way I heard it was that there was going to be an announcement about the Crusaders game itself.
'"
That's how I heard it too!
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2785 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2012 | Nov 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
41627_1288549685.jpg "I read somewhere that Leeds-Bradford is an airport, Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. I can't wait to play my first game against them.":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41627.jpg |
|
| I would imagine it would be £10 tickets to try and get 1 supported club in SL because they (IL and the club) have always wanted to try and get 4 attandances over 20k and were very dissapointed when the BigOne3 didnt aceive this.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20447 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
[b:1wlcmlhe][color=#800000:1wlcmlhe]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018 & 2023
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
[/color:1wlcmlhe][/b:1wlcmlhe]: |
|
| Quote: FearTheVee "Agreed, but part of the reason MM has been so successful is he brought the latest techniques over from a champion club like Melbourne. .'"
Surely then if MM had stayed at Wigan for his third year we would be start to become less successful due to his out of date techniques (three years old)?
So what's the solution (to be ahead of the pack)?
* Recruit every one / two years from the NRL to obtain latest techniques?
* Send current Head Coach to Aus for a few months to refresh techniques?
* Link up with NRL club and obtain latest techniques by video link?
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 11377 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
2960.jpg :2960.jpg |
|
| Quote: MattyB "Surely then if MM had stayed at Wigan for his third year we would be start to become less successful due to his out of date techniques (three years old)? '"
Depends whether he was an integral part of developing the techniques at the forefront of top level RL (the NRL). If so, he's shown he has the nouse to think ahead of the game and could do so again.
If he's just nicked them from Bellamy then yes, you may be right. I suppose we will see as and when Wigan get to the play-offs whether his tactics are as dominant as they were last season, but you need to innovate to stay ahead longer term.
Wigan play a very structured style of rugby. Structure can lead to predictability if not contrantly updated. Wigan are fortunate in that within this structure, they have an "off the cuff" genius in Sam Tomkins.
Wigan show no signs of ending their domination any time soon, can Wane maintain the gap next year by adding his own take on the game and stopping the team stagnating? Or will they fall back to the pack by doing the "same old"?
Who knows, the "same old" may be good enough for years to come, provided Sam stays fit as he is proving the difference between Wigan and the best of the rest more often than not.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5443 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
788_1290880131.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_788.gif |
|
| Quote: FearTheVee "
But it's not a leap of faith to attribute your recent improvement to Maguire'"
Of course, but there's a lot more to it than that, as Madge is the first to concede.
Certainly as far as tactics and motivation go, Madge deserves massive credit, but the bulk of the team was effectively created and developed by Waney, who must get the credit for the skill levels that brought us three consecutive Reserve GF wins...more than half our team came through in those 3 years.
Similarly, Mark Bitcon and the rest of the backroom staff had crucial input into our much improved fitness levels, which have been a huge factor, not only in our match fitness but also our relatively decent injury situation.
In my opinion, it's Ian Lenagan that has has the biggest effect, both in changing the "club culture" back to something that Rads then identified as a problem, and now approves of, and in choosing the right calibre of coaching and backroom staff, Madge included.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16963 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
|
| Quote: NickyKiss "Thats why I say it's mainly Saints fans that seem to be giving Wane plenty of stick because I believe they feel they're behind Wigan by a little way at the moment and they're losing one of their best 2 players in Graham at the end of the year.
As for Wire we've got what you want( though i'd use a line from Wires marketing team there) but I think your fans know that on any given day it's 50/50 between the 2 sides and your close enough to Wigan to just look after your own game.'"
It's pretty obvious we are behind Wigan by a little way at the moment and i doubt any saints fan with common sense can't see this.
We are also losing one of our best players in James Graham and he will be huge loss no doubt.
However, wigan are losing the best thing thaw happened to the club in god knows how many Years in MM. IMO the loss of MM is far greater than the loss of James Graham at saints.
If wane does get the job, it's always going to be a step down as MM is the best coach in super league by a long way.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1824 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2013 | Jul 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
47997_1274724262.jpg Ers tha' geet bitter on?:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47997.jpg |
|
| Seeing as IL and Rads are going to be the guys making this decision, I'll be happy with whoever they appoint. I trust their judgement 100%
Unless it's Millward!
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7438 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | Feb 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Wayne Bennet is our new coach for next season
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 125 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2014 | Apr 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
59763_1321557464.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59763.jpg |
|
| Quote: APT "The away stand has sold out
I was only joking but it looks like I was right as my mate who works for Heinz has informed me that the North Stand will be full (ish) of freebies from local businesses
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 29689 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
10919_1322084665.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10919.jpg |
|
| Quote: St pete "It's pretty obvious we are behind Wigan by a little way at the moment and i doubt any saints fan with common sense can't see this.
We are also losing one of our best players in James Graham and he will be huge loss no doubt.
However, wigan are losing the best thing thaw happened to the club in god knows how many Years in MM. IMO the loss of MM is far greater than the loss of James Graham at saints.
If wane does get the job, it's always going to be a step down as MM is the best coach in super league by a long way.'"
We won't have Maguire anymore granted but we'll have a guy who's worked day in day out with him for 2 years so therefore any changes will be kept to a bare minimum. We will still have Mark Bitcom as well who's the man responsible for getting these players as fit as they are now.
We dominate games via our aggression combined with our fitness and with those 2 around we won't have a problem on that score.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12860 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
-
sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
-
Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
-
the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
-
Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
-
Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
-
FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg |
|
| Quote: NickyKiss "We won't have Maguire anymore granted but we'll have a guy who's worked day in day out with him for 2 years so therefore any changes will be kept to a bare minimum. We will still have Mark Bitcom as well who's the man responsible for getting these players as fit as they are now.
We dominate games via our aggression combined with our fitness and with those 2 around we won't have a problem on that score.'"
Not to mention we will still have pretty much all the same players as now, players like Finch, Lockers, Leuluai and maybe even Deacon will lead us round the park.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1429 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2015 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
43178_1281391470.gif WIGAN RLFC
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 2010
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010
FLOODLIT 9 CHAMPIONS 2010
U20's VALVOLINE GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2010
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010
MAN OF STEEL 2010 - PAT RICHARDS
YOUNG PLAYER OF THE YEAR 2010 - SAM TOMKINS
COACH OF THE YEAR 2010 - MICHAEL MAGUIRE
R.I.P TERRY NEWTON:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_43178.gif |
|
| Quote: NickyKiss "We won't have Maguire anymore granted but we'll have a guy who's worked day in day out with him for 2 years so therefore any changes will be kept to a bare minimum. We will still have Mark Bitcom as well who's the man responsible for getting these players as fit as they are now.
We dominate games via our aggression combined with our fitness and with those 2 around we won't have a problem on that score.'"
Exactly . we don't need change just more of the same . And that's why i think Wane will work .keeping changes to the bare minimum .
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1735 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2023 | Oct 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Just as MM learnt his trade off Bellamy so has Wane off MM.
People seem to think madge was a coach years ago he was assistant first
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 29689 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
10919_1322084665.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10919.jpg |
|
| Quote: tank123 "Just as MM learnt his trade off Bellamy so has Wane off MM.
People seem to think madge was a coach years ago he was assistant first'"
Also I'm sure Maguire has even learnt a few tricks from Wane himself. He is afterall a Wiganer through and through and will have helped Maguire in plenty of ways.
Wane will take all the strong points and processes Maguire has brought in and add his own stamp.
He'll do fine.
|
|
|
|
|
|