Could only listen in, but sounded like a really frustrating one where we managed to shoot ourselves in the foot, again.

Is it surprising though? Last week, yet again, a shonky win was met by the sentiments of "we won, move on"...... No, at some point lets not move on. Bar the odd (big) game where we raise it, since day one of this season every facet has been down on last season and you can't consistently win games with questionable performances. It will catch you out eventually.

I don't think we should be calling for anyone's head or demanding [ix[/i amount of changes, but likewise the attitude to how we've been so far this year shouldn't be so blasé. It's not been good enough and needs to get better ASAP if we're to do anything this season.

If we raise it in the big games then guess what........we might well win the GF.

Perhaps Peet has taken a lesson from Wane, who after 2012 never ever flogged us and we lost some utterly stupid games and yet made pretty much every GF.

Usual Wigan fan reaction to a defeat with absent posters all popping back up and I don't just mean WW69. I think the post calling for Peet's head is the most idiotic post I've ever seen on here.

If you look at the boards of most of the other bigger names, Leeds, Saints and Warrington have fans calling for the coaches head. Higher expectations and all that. Not many were in favour of Lam but you can't decry his success so far at Leigh. Who saw that coming?

Peet I still feel is the man to take this club forward. Still early in his career. Some of the spark has gone from last year and I think it was when briers left. See how we do next season. I hope they take this forward in the off season and really look at our attack

Expecting a consistent and high standard in every game is “flogging” the players?????????
The format is totally and utterly wrong that it allows a team to lose “stupid” games with no major repercussions.
The GF is meaningless in that it is purely a financial necessity.

I wasn’t surprised at the result last night. It just confirmed my opinion that we are not a good team with a very average squad propped up with 2 individualistic players albeit that they are great to watch when they deliver. So far we have lost nearly 40% of our league games which screams out average. Admittedly there are several other average teams in the competition but I expect that the best 2 teams in Saints and Catalan will contest the final.

My concern is more about how we improve the squad and style of play for the 2024 season.
We won’t win the GF this season. Happy to have a charity bet with you up to say £50 and I will give you an extra 2 points over and above whatever Powder Power is giving today. DM me if want to take this up and we can agree odds and charities.

Regards Wane I gave my season tickets away half way through the season in 2017 and 2016 because of the “acceptance” of losing “stupid” games and the turgid “rugby” that was churned out. If I thought that we were getting back on that train I’d never buy a season ticket again.
Regards the Peet posting I agree with you 100%.

You won't get a high standard in every game because you don't need one.

The system is flawed, but that's the system and after seeing sides finish 4th and 5th then go on to win it as well as sides finish top and not even make the final, I'm only concerned with where we are after the last round and how well we're playing then.

Each to there own EC.
It is a flawed system but you will be concerned before the last round unless Peet can resolve the HB conundrum.

Cheers. Used to have a soft spot for a Wigan when I was a young kid when you had the likes of Connolly and Wiganw ere my second team even had a Wigan shirt! I think that fled the year you got the points deduction mind Best of luck for the end of season.

I’ll judge the season as a whole at the end. It’s been up and down and I could be way off but I do feel we’ve made a conscious decision this season to try and peak for the must win games and that is leading to some iffy form for the rest of the games. I’ve seen enough in the cup games and in games like Good Friday and Wire away to have some confidence that we’ve got plenty in the tank when the big ones come round but it has been a frustrating watch in between.

The real weakness in us continues to be around the middle, with us unable to get Ellis and Havard in the team at the same time. Guys like Singleton and Mago should hang their heads in all honesty, when you watch a couple of younger forwards like Nsemba and Hill busting a gut and then last night Smithies, O’Neill and Shorrocks ran themselves in to the ground and are just having to try and lead the way in the effort areas but they’re being let down by not having the right experienced quality in support.

A weird year, I feel we can beat everyone but also can lose to anyone.

Wouldn’t absolute shock me if we won the cup and got the GF but equally wouldn’t shock me if we lost the semi and crashed out the playoffs.

I think the penny may have dropped, the Club will let Singo and Mago leave at the end of the season. What is really annoying is that they are both getting a fair wedge and we could have recruited players who offered more on a smaller salary.

Definitely but sadly we’re stuck for this season. Singleton in particular looks like he’s given up now he’s not an automatic pick. Mago is Mago, makes some yards, not many carries, the odd error and a defensive liability. I’d love to see us pull out all the stops to get somebody in this season but given Wire have cap space to spare, 2 quota spots already open and they’re still struggling to find anyone, I don’t fancy our chances.

I think that the real weakness is too few really experienced players in the squad and an unbalanced squad. Last year we brought in 3 Aussies with little or no 1st team experience which compounded a very average squad and a very underpowered pack. So far the signings for 2024 are another hooker and 2 “potential “ forwards. We are screaming out for proven forwards and a proven 6. Obviously I hope other signings are afoot but unless there are some shock exits I don’t see how we are going to add really quality to the squad.
As for this year if for one second I thought the team were “picking” matches I would stop going immediately. Not sure how they could “pick” games because every game now is against a team looking to get into the playoffs or avoid relegation.
Our starting 17 is ok but no HB partnership worth it’s salt and an underpowered pack. Once we have an injury or two we are very stretched. To win the GF I suspect we would have to beat Leyth away, Saints or Catalan away and then Saints or Catalan in 3 consecutive weeks. I just don’t see us being capable of that.
I don’t think I’m being negative just honest that we were not good enough last year and we have definitely regressed.
The only way I don’t see Saints or Catalan winning the GF is if they have a catastrophic run of injuries.
Regarding Mago I’m not sure why we signed him and why the fitness staff haven’t improved his fitness in nearly 2 seasons. Singleton was and just is ok. He’s obviously on the way out and I agree his current levels of performance are still unprofessional and unacceptable unless he is carrying a knock.