A prop getting outmuscled by a 19 year old half back to hand Saints a try……..pathetic.

Again a nothing kick by hastings
That being said every collision we are dominated, we are so fu*kimg slow and predictable with the ball.in hand.
It's fuc*ing awful what I'm watching.
Lam please fu*k off!!!

Watching Bentley dominate a once fearsome Jon Bateman is fairly depressing.

Our S&C department needs a massive overhaul.

Men against boys physically.

Hastings has no chance, no platform at all to play off and no runners for him to hit.

I genuinely feel like we offer no threat at all, we are so easy to defend against.

I'm not blaming hastings as he's getting no back up from his forwards but just don't see the point in the the type of nothing kicks he's putting in

We are not finishing our sets in a position to do anything else.

We are not in a position to put in attacking kicks, but not so far back to put in long downtown kicks.

I’d actually prefer us though to grubber into touch rather than keep just lobbing up easy high balls.

We get to their line on a rare occasion, get a penalty and go for 2? At 6-0 down we go for 2? That says it all for me.

We’ve no idea. One up rugby with the occasional and predictable shift it left and see if Faz can squirm through. Shorrocks at 9 is a huge no, no.

It’s frustrating even more when it pans to Lam and the expression of bewilderment on his face. I often wonder if he’s getting wound up at blue and white seats because he certainly isn’t doing anything to win us this game.

See my last post not blaming him due to our forwards but his choice of nothing kick

The worrying thing is that Saints aren’t even in second gear yet. We are clueless beyond belief.

It’s embarrassing watching Hastings.

Smith once again anonymous, so the ball has to go to Hastings on every attacking play. The defence can load up on Hastings as we literally have no other pivot that creates anything or puts their hand up to take some of that responsibility.

React to being kicked in the head, yellow. No reaction, that would have been nothing as play on was allowed.

Kick someone in the head "petulant" or not. It's not a yellow, the card there is red.

Disagree that’s not a red.

We really are in trouble as a sport if that is a red. It was gamesmanship.

Bentley is living rent free in Batemans head and totally dominating a once formidable player but since his return to Wigan is a shadow of his former self.

We are now reaping the reward of the recruiting of Shaun Wanes one dimensional robots at junior level . Saints youngsters look far more athletic than ours , as do Leeds kids . I believe Warrington have some good ones coming through as well. Our whole scouting and recruiting system needs a massive overhaul

This might not be the worst Wigan team ever but it is heading that way.

We look like a team that has never been coached - no organisation, no structure and some of the dumbest rugby I have seen in a long time. Even our best players (Bateman, Farrell, Gildart etc) are going backwards and looking worse each week, the drop off ball to Faz is so predicatable and so easy to defend. The kikcing game is truly woeful hoof it down field or hoof it up in the air with no pressure.

.Absolutely clueless and zero entertainment value. It is a good thing Saints are not playing well as they should be way ahead by now.

The kicking for 2 said it all really - even the players have no fiath in their ability to score - unless it comes from a Saints mistake.

If Saints do not run up a decent score then Leeds will next game out.

Every team we play can literally put all 13 defenders on the side of the pitch Hastings is on and we would still go to him and expect him to create.

Smith may be a kid but he needs to offer way more than he currently is.

It’s embarrassing how lacking in any clue we are and how certain players are willing to just be passengers on a ship that is clearly sinking.