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Quote: Bovrick "Looking forward to Powell getting more game time in the halves. He's so dominant when he gets the chance, controls the flow and has a clever kicking game.'"


exactly...hes a waste of space and talent at 9.
Get him in 6, drop Green ( needs a kick up the bum imo), and let Logan do whats hes being paid for.

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Quote: Leyland Warrior "A well known video sharing site now has the highlights up. Just enter the title of this thread.
Andrew Voss in commentary - "Where's Shane Richardson? Sign up Joe Burgess........ Just pretend he's one of the brothers!"
Class!
Made my blood run cold, to be honest.

Even to good guys down there like Voss, the NRL is all that matters.

Encouraging them to pinch yet more of our exciting young players, even when done in an air of jest, worries me terribly.

With even the NRL apparent easy pickings for the endlessly cashed-up England RU (Sam Burgess reportedly offered four times his NRL salary!!!), we really do seem to be at the very bottom of the pecking order.

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I think we need to watch forwards offloading really closely when we play Sydney, this is a major area of attack for NRL clubs.
In a tight game a slip of the ball can be the basis of a fast break and try, NZW were playing well off the back of the offload which seemed to be weakness in our defence.

Roosters love to play and attack off the offload, they have amazing offloaders (not just SBW) and some extremely fast backs, Jennings etc.

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Quote: Madderzahatter "We need to sign their No.27 up - he looks an absolute beast!'"
Albert Vete. Came to the attention of the coach last year as a 19 year old Junior.
Played a hand full of Reserve grade games after being promoted early from the Junior team.
Pleasing to see him go ok in his first game against First grade players.

There are a lot of Junior players in his class. The NRL Nines sees a bunch of the Junior backs on show with Tomkins and Johnson.....Lolohea and Fusitua are going to give the Australian backs who have never heard of them a rude awakening.

Watching the Wigan young players go around tonight you could almost make an unbeatable Jnr Team by combing our Jnrs with yours.

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Only seen the highlights so far, will watch the full game tonight but in my opinion Wane has a big decision to make regarding fullback.

Bowen has not yet got used to our systems, he will but his timing is just off enough for it to stunt our attack.

Hampshire looks like a fluid link man capable of breaking the line.

Whilst Bowen I have no doubt will be the fullback for most of the season, for this one off game at this stage of the year for mine Hampshire should start.

Bateman over Clubb is an easy pick for me, and the other headscratcher is Powell vs Green. Powell was ok against Giants but excellent today Green was shocking vs the Giants. I guess that will come down to how they are performing away from the pubic eye.

Whilst I appreciate it is tough on Bowen if we are looking to give ourselves the best chance of winning this game Hampshire needs to play.

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Quote: jonh "Only seen the highlights so far, will watch the full game tonight but in my opinion Wane has a big decision to make regarding fullback.

Bowen has not yet got used to our systems, he will but his timing is just off enough for it to stunt our attack.

Hampshire looks like a fluid link man capable of breaking the line.

Whilst Bowen I have no doubt will be the fullback for most of the season, for this one off game at this stage of the year for mine Hampshire should start.

Bateman over Clubb is an easy pick for me, and the other headscratcher is Powell vs Green. Powell was ok against Giants but excellent today Green was shocking vs the Giants. I guess that will come down to how they are performing away from the pubic eye.

Whilst I appreciate it is tough on Bowen if we are looking to give ourselves the best chance of winning this game Hampshire needs to play.'"

Bit harsh on Green, who two games ago won MoM in the GF. So - one poor game and out you go? Surely he has earned the right to play against the Roosters.

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Quote: jonh "

Whilst Bowen I have no doubt will be the fullback for most of the season, for this one off game at this stage of the year for mine Hampshire should start.

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As I said in the other thread, I agree with this.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Bit harsh on Green, who two games ago won MoM in the GF. So - one poor game and out you go? Surely he has earned the right to play against the Roosters.'"



Last year is gone. Powell looks to be on form. In my opinion you pick on form rather than reputation.

Powell looked far hungrier than Green during the Huddersfield Game and was excellent from what I saw today. As I said it's a tough one and will probably come down to who is performing the best away from the critical eye of the fans.

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Quote: jonh "Only seen the highlights so far, will watch the full game tonight but in my opinion Wane has a big decision to make regarding fullback.

Bowen has not yet got used to our systems, he will but his timing is just off enough for it to stunt our attack.

Hampshire looks like a fluid link man capable of breaking the line.

Whilst Bowen I have no doubt will be the fullback for most of the season, for this one off game at this stage of the year for mine Hampshire should start.

Bateman over Clubb is an easy pick for me, and the other headscratcher is Powell vs Green. Powell was ok against Giants but excellent today Green was shocking vs the Giants. I guess that will come down to how they are performing away from the pubic eye.

Whilst I appreciate it is tough on Bowen if we are looking to give ourselves the best chance of winning this game Hampshire needs to play.'"



I'm pleased others are also seeing the difference in play between Hampshire and Bowen, we look far better when Hampshire is on the pitch.
If you'd have Bateman over Clubb, which I also agree with, would you have Hughes over Clubb as well? Who gets the bench spot?

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Quote: jonh "Last year is gone. Powell looks to be on form. In my opinion you pick on form rather than reputation.

Powell looked far hungrier than Green during the Huddersfield Game and was excellent from what I saw today. As I said it's a tough one and will probably come down to who is performing the best away from the critical eye of the fans.'"


But you also have to take into account who the form shown is shown against and why. Powell may have looked enthusiastic v Hudds but that didn't translate into anything much at all. He didn't look effective in defence against them as while he made tackles he didn't really do so with much effect. While Green did nothing much either you have to ask yourself who is going to handle the pressure of such a big game against far better players the best?

The same applies to full back. Bowen was playing against these guys in the NRL a few months ago and should be able to read their game far better then any other Wigan player.

Wane has been known to let is enthusiasm for the younger players rule his head such as when he chucked Murphy into the play-off semi-final v Leeds a couple of seasons ago.

In any case the big issue for me v Hudds was the right side of the defence which looked wide open at times and Green wasn't to blame for that but I am sure it will have affected his game.

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I'd go

FB 26 Hampshire
RW 2 Charnley
RC 3 Goulding
LC 23 Sarginson
LW 32 Burgess
SO 19 Powell
SH 7 Smith
P 8 Taylor
H 9 McIlorum
P 16 Dudson
SR 10 Flower
SR 12 Farrell
LF 13 O'Loughlin

S 15 Tomkins
S 17 Crosby
S 22 Pettybourne
S 25 Bateman

Hampshire just impresses me every time he takes the field. I'm sure Bowen will be the better option once he's settled in but we don't have that luxury for the WCC, we need our very best team out for that one game. Sarginson and Burgess should go without saying IMO, I don't really see any big advantage Thornley has over either. Powell over Green is obviously a bold move but Powell's an out and out half IMO and his form is far better than Green's. Flower in the back row because neither Clubb nor Hughes fill me with much confidence, we need a reliable defender there, preferably with a bit of size to offset Farrell and Bateman being quite small, so Flower's my man. Reluctantly picked Tomkins on the bench because McIlorum looks out of sorts and he's the only other specialist hooker we have. Just to add I fully expect Wane to pick Bowen at FB, Green at SO, Clubb at SR and Powell benched.

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Picking props at SR is nothing short of suicide for such a big game against such a quality opposition. We'd get torn to shreds outwide. There are concerns over Clubb's mobility when defending out wide, I don't think either Pettybourne or Flower are the answer to this. The speed of our defence out wide will be more important that just putting big bodies out there, leave the big guys in the middle.

I'm aware Flower and Pettybourne have both played in the backrow, but Wane sees them as props and they will have spent all pre season training there. Even when Flower plays at LF he's effectively just a 3rd prop.

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Quote: Grimmy "I'd go

FB 26 Hampshire
RW 2 Charnley
RC 3 Goulding
LC 23 Sarginson
LW 32 Burgess
SO 19 Powell
SH 7 Smith
P 8 Taylor
H 9 McIlorum
P 16 Dudson
SR 10 Flower
SR 12 Farrell
LF 13 O'Loughlin

S 15 Tomkins
S 17 Crosby
S 22 Pettybourne
S 25 Bateman

Hampshire just impresses me every time he takes the field. I'm sure Bowen will be the better option once he's settled in but we don't have that luxury for the WCC, we need our very best team out for that one game. Sarginson and Burgess should go without saying IMO, I don't really see any big advantage Thornley has over either. Powell over Green is obviously a bold move but Powell's an out and out half IMO and his form is far better than Green's. Flower in the back row because neither Clubb nor Hughes fill me with much confidence, we need a reliable defender there, preferably with a bit of size to offset Farrell and Bateman being quite small, so Flower's my man. Reluctantly picked Tomkins on the bench because McIlorum looks out of sorts and he's the only other specialist hooker we have. Just to add I fully expect Wane to pick Bowen at FB, Green at SO, Clubb at SR and Powell benched.'"


It's very rare I agree with your team selections when you post them, in fact I think this is a first but I agree 100%.

I also agree with what you say beneath your selection.

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as soon as mitchell pierce or James Maloney realise hampshire can't catch a high ball we would be lucky to ever receive the ball again.

Also hampshire in the air against the like of Daniel tupou, RTS and anthony minichello no thanks. I agree he has been better in attack i think bowen needs to loose a bit of weight he has had a long off season.

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