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I must be in a huge minority and quite possibly it's just me but I think wire have been the best team in SL this year. They only finished 2nd cuz Tony Smith rotated his squad really well knowing that finishing first doesn't matter.

Anybody who think Leeds came fifth on purpose is bonkers! They'd have killed for some good form in the middle of the season. They won a 4 game knock out competition and nothing more. However, every club knew the dance before the music started to play so fair enough, the won the GF and are champions again.

My problem is that there is no intensity in the weekly rounds as coaches often say the results don't matter. That's a bad place for our game to be. The top of the league should be the holy grail of our competition and our game as a whole is suffering.

As for Wigan, I'd have taken league leaders and 2 semi's in 2012 if I'd been offered it in 2009 so we're in better shape than we were then. Hopefully Wane has learned a lot and we'll improve next year.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Is that a wind up?

Briers vs Finch or Tommy. Finch

Out of interest how would you compare Brett Hodgson, SOO player and NRL GF winner, to Sam Tomkins who has got none of that.

Or maybe I shouldn't go down this route else someone will start bringing up Ricky Bibey.'"


FWIW I'd put GF and MOS winner Tomkins over Finch.

BUT what has that got to do with Briers? A player with no WORTHY Rep, GF or awards to his name.

ATEOTD you mentioned experience and said if you had a player with Briers experience we'd be better off. I proved you wrong as we had a VASTLY more experienced player in Finch.

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Quote: Guerrier "They are, absolutely.

But we weren't undone by our coach being a 'neanderthal'. We conceded 2 tries in 160 minutes of playoff rugby, and went out by a point after our NRL organiser in chief panicked and forgot how to play smart rugby when leading a semi final by a point with 5 minutes left.

We could easily have been there last night if we'd have been smarter in the last 10 minutes against Leeds, but that wasn't Wane's fault, so stop looking for a scapegoat in him. If we'd have swapped Sinfield for Finch in that game last week, we'd have won it.'"


No we lost because Wane beasted them in training.

Finch, Tomkins, Hansen & Lima all injured in training. Add to that Lockers at 6 and 9 instead of players being better.

OTT comments in the press and going OTT in June instead of October.

He's a poor excuse and a poor replacement for a World Class coach like Madge.

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "
As for Wigan, I'd have taken league leaders and 2 semi's in 2012 if I'd been offered it in 2009 so we're in better shape than we were then. Hopefully Wane has learned a lot and we'll improve next year.'"


Bloody hell , talk about being selective , we are better than we were in 2009.... what about 2010=SL Champions, 2011=CC Winners...we are in a worse state than we have been for the past 2 seasons, and i for one cannot see us doing any better next season , especially with Shaun Wane at the helm icon_evil.gif

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Quote: EFCWARRIOR "Bloody hell , talk about being selective , we are better than we were in 2009.... what about 2010

Your not allowed to say that. Don't you know that Wane is from Wigan and therefore the only person who should be coach. Ignore the fact he's taken us backwards and in the process mass himself a laughing stock!

Some posters need to get their head outside the WN postcode

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Get a grip. d040.gif

Did you really expect Wigan to make the impact they made in the 2010 and 2011 seasons this year? After losing the likes of Deacon, Hoffman and Joel.. Our squad simply wasn't as good as the squad from last year and the year before even, Madge i agree had a MASSIVE effect on our campaign but Wane isn't necessarily bringing the club down, fair enough he's made a few boo-boos but its his FIRST year in charge of a clubs first team! Get off his back he's done more than i expected this season.

Also, We beat Saints Three times out of Four! Included the Manchester Massacre.. There's been some special moments this year, And i'm sure there'll be more under Waney.

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Wane finished top of the league this year. Thats an achievement in anybody's book.

If you get rid, who is available? Mick Potter? Paul Cullen?

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Quote: Joker. "Get a grip.
But by your clubs own admission you have failed this year. Was it wane, or leneghan, that earlier this season was talking about how big wigan were and the aim was at least 1 final and a trophy every season? In terms of trophies you win some finals you lose some...so a final each season is a must.

You have failed to make either final this season, considering you had a squad capable of finishing top it has been a failure and an underachievment.

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Quote: EFCWARRIOR "Bloody hell , talk about being selective , we are better than we were in 2009.... what about 2010

I can't either. Warrington will have the same squad and will finish above you next year, saints with a new coach are likely to improve and hull are improving. They key for me is losing both your halfbacks, that could see you drop a few places. 3rd at best, 5th at worst.

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Quote: EFCWARRIOR "Bloody hell , talk about being selective , we are better than we were in 2009.... what about 2010

For gods sake, in 2012 we where the league leaders which is no small achievement. We lost 2 semi-finals, both to the SL 'champions' with both of those being close games that we played poorly in

Some people need to stop thinking that just because we won the SL title 2 years ago that we are the dominant force of the 80/90's. Those days are long gone and will never return. We are one of the top 3 sides in the competition and I for one am more than happy with the current state of our club

Remember 2006 anyone............

Some people really need to get a grip

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Quote: sergeant pepper "No we lost because Wane beasted them in training.

Finch, Tomkins, Hansen & Lima all injured in training. Add to that Lockers at 6 and 9 instead of players being better.

OTT comments in the press and going OTT in June instead of October.

He's a poor excuse and a poor replacement for a World Class coach like Madge.'"


that's silly and you really don't know that. players get injured in training, it happens, it's a contact sport

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Wane finished top of the league this year. Thats an achievement in anybody's book.

If you get rid, who is available? Mick Potter? Paul Cullen?'"


Christ, that's the most sensible thing you've said on here.

I don't think we'll be seeing 40-50+ point scorelines next year as the losses of Tommy, Carmont, Finch and Lima are going to be huge. Next year may well be the dreaded "transition year" while new players bed in and younger players get more experience. Who knows, we might finish 5th and win the league!

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Quote: Peter Kingsley "They key for me is losing both your halfbacks, that could see you drop a few places. 3rd at best, 5th at worst.'"



Nah, Leeds well and truly have their eye on that spot. Again.

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Quote: Scouse Pie2 "Christ, that's the most sensible thing you've said on here.

I don't think we'll be seeing 40-50+ point scorelines next year as the losses of Tommy, Carmont, Finch and Lima are going to be huge. Next year may well be the dreaded "transition year" while new players bed in and younger players get more experience. Who knows, we might finish 5th and win the league!'"


I agree with this, Wigan's "transition year" with losing these class players is going to come a year before ours so next year might be our best chance of winning SL in the foreseeable future. 2013 Year of the Wolfs, bring it on. icon_lol.gif

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