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Quote: Father Ted "Lockyer has beaten Mal Meniga's record for the number of appearances for Australia.
He has broken Clive Churchill's record for the number of times he's captained Australia.
Lockyer yesterday equalled Ken Irvine's record for the number of tries scored by an Australian in Internationals. Score against the French and he will have the Irvine record.
Lockyer is one of the all time greats, if not the greatest, an absolute legend!'"

And on top of all that, he's good looking and intelligent too!

*drool*

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: cadoo "I can't stick this bloke and I am sure many posters are aware of how he never gives English players any praise and berates the entire English game but I give you LeagueFreak's take on Sam Tomkins

Because LeagueFreak said so icon_wink.gif

No but really, no english player other than Morley gets any praise so I think for him to stand out in his opinion is pretty good.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I would also like to have seen Michael Lawrence included in the squad in place of Lee Smith (going to Rugby Union why put him in)'"


We're desperate for some young outside backs to come through now that we seem to be sorting our halfback problems out. A clever hooker wouldn't go amiss either........maybe McGuire can mould McIlorum into a clever hooker to add to his energy and his toughness(and then we'd need to get him to switch over to England).

As for the outside backs it's be great for the national side if we rounded up the likes of Lawrence, Cudjoe, Ainscough, Hall, Briscoe, Watkins, Wheeler and co and sent them all over to Australia to play in the NRL.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "We're desperate for some young outside backs to come through now that we seem to be sorting our halfback problems out. A clever hooker wouldn't go amiss either........maybe McGuire can mould McIlorum into a clever hooker to add to his energy and his toughness(and then we'd need to get him to switch over to England).

As for the outside backs it's be great for the national side if we rounded up the likes of Lawrence, Cudjoe, Ainscough, Hall, Briscoe, Watkins, Wheeler and co and sent them all over to Australia to play in the NRL.'"


IMO the best way to find a clever hooker is to put a half-back at hooker.

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Quote: NickyKiss "As for the outside backs it's be great for the national side if we rounded up the likes of Lawrence, Cudjoe, Ainscough, Hall, Briscoe, Watkins, Wheeler and co and sent them all over to Australia to play in the NRL.'"

Noooo!! We want him here to play centre for Saints!

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Quote: Odemwingie "IMO the best way to find a clever hooker is to put a half-back at hooker.'"


Or a halfback playing without much pace playing at 13 like Sinfield.

Having just watched yesterdays game back for the first time i thought Sinfield was excellent when he went in at hooker and really got us rolling forward with crisp and clever distribution.

I had him down as my 6 for next week but i've changed that now to 9 with Myler partnering Tomkins.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "Or a halfback playing without much pace playing at 13 like Sinfield.

Having just watched yesterdays game back for the first time i thought Sinfield was excellent when he went in at hooker and really got us rolling forward with crisp and clever distribution.

I had him down as my 6 for next week but i've changed that now to 9 with Myler partnering Tomkins.'"


I have been saying Sinfield should play hooker for england for quite a while, let him for most of the match and let someone like Eastmond who is rapid try and get us moving forward quicker.

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Quote: Odemwingie "I have been saying Sinfield should play hooker for england for quite a while, let him for most of the match and let someone like Eastmond who is rapid try and get us moving forward quicker.'"


I remember Sinfield having a couple of good games for GB in 2001(i think) playing at 9 at times.

To me he could well have found his position at international level there. It suits his game because he's got a good passing game and is a pretty clever player. It will also give him abit more time to get his kicks away without being closed down on the back of a bad dummy half pass.

He should take a leaf out of Cameron Smiths book when it comes to dummy half kicking........Awesome stuff yesterday.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "I remember Sinfield having a couple of good games for GB in 2001(i think) playing at 9 at times.

To me he could well have found his position at international level there. It suits his game because he's got a good passing game and is a pretty clever player. It will also give him abit more time to get his kicks away without being closed down on the back of a bad dummy half pass.

He should take a leaf out of Cameron Smiths book when it comes to dummy half kicking........Awesome stuff yesterday.'"


Why is it that Aus can always find the space when kicking and we can't, Thurstons kicking is amazing and Smiths from dummy half is superb, it gives you a better option to kick early IMO.

Sinfield should play hooker next week if Tony Smith was watching the game.

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Quote: Odemwingie "Why is it that Aus can always find the space when kicking and we can't, Thurstons kicking is amazing and Smiths from dummy half is superb, it gives you a better option to kick early IMO.

Sinfield should play hooker next week if Tony Smith was watching the game.'"


Purely and simply it's thier sheer speed of the PTB. If you notice, in most tackles Australia find their elbows and knee's, which makes for a quicker PTB and more often than not a defensive line looking like a dog's back leg.

England get turned over onto thier backs thus slowing the PTB down and letting the opposition have more time to set their defensive line.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: 100% Warrior "Purely and simply it's thier sheer speed of the PTB. If you notice, in most tackles Australia find their elbows and knee's, which makes for a quicker PTB and more often than not a defensive line looking like a dog's back leg.

England get turned over onto thier backs thus slowing the PTB down and letting the opposition have more time to set their defensive line.'"


Are you Paul Cullen icon_lol.gif

You are correct though, its not rocket science, you can get up easier if you are not on your back. We let them dominate the collision too much sometimes.

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Bloody knew some smart @rse would ask that icon_lol.gif

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Quote: 100% Warrior "Purely and simply it's thier sheer speed of the PTB. If you notice, in most tackles Australia find their elbows and knee's, which makes for a quicker PTB and more often than not a defensive line looking like a dog's back leg.

England get turned over onto thier backs thus slowing the PTB down and letting the opposition have more time to set their defensive line.'"



Some chap at the game kept screaming at the ref for letting the aussies hand on longer in the tackle..

But it was the fact there PTB was so much faster than ours. really hope MM can bring that into our game next season becauses a killer for defences

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: 100% Warrior "Bloody knew some smart @rse would ask that
It really is the only thing he used to comment on though icon_lol.gif

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For my next Paul Cullen impersonation - A,B,C defenders icon_lol.gif

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