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There was no need to carry on going all out in the second half. Sit back, test our defence and soak up pressure. We turned it into an arm wrestle on purpose.

That said, Philbin changed the game for them, he was incredible and miles better than the pudding Chris Hill.

Marshall was outstanding for us (bombed try apart), what a player this kid is, never gives less than 100% even with injuries.

Leuluai was also a class apart, best half on the field. I can’t believe people on here still think Matty Smith is a decent player, championship standard at best.

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I'd actually like to see French given a game at FB.

In defence Zak is second to none, reminds me of an 'old school fb' safe as houses under the high ball a great one on one defender and a great last line of defence.

But... I'm going to say something which could provoke debate....i think from watching French in the NRL I think he 'could' be a better attacking fb than Zak.
Linking out wide I'd say he's passing is better and he's show and go with his pace would be frightening for opposition defences.

Id like to see how he'd play in SL in the full back position. Just out of curiosity if nothing else.

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Quote: ChrisA "Hastings just has it all, with the threats outside running off him, French, Gildart, Farrell and Greenwood etc, it gives him more space and if they do focus on him it creates space outside, it's just a win win however you structure your defence against him.'"


I don't want to look beyond this season... So much more could happen for us. But it'd hard not to get excited about Hastings teaming up with our squad.

Then... Thrown in George Burgess.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Do you seriously, honestly think we played well in the second half? Seriously?

Sorry mate. Not for me. Not by a long shot.'"

Yes I do that was a magnificent effort in defense .

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Quote: Wigg'n "There was no need to carry on going all out in the second half. Sit back, test our defence and soak up pressure. We turned it into an arm wrestle on purpose.

That said, Philbin changed the game for them, he was incredible and miles better than the pudding Chris Hill.

Marshall was outstanding for us (bombed try apart), what a player this kid is, never gives less than 100% even with injuries.

Leuluai was also a class apart, best half on the field. I can’t believe people on here still think Matty Smith is a decent player, championship standard at best.'"


Since when did passing the ball away from the ruck become “going all out”?
You can test out your defence in the opposition half as well.

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Had to laugh at the BBC headline I just read from last night- ‘Injury hit Warrington lose at Wigan’. They were only missing Charnley, Austin and Hughes from there from there first choice side were they not? I raise that with Burgess, Manfredi, Flower, Bullock and O’Loughlin from ours. It’s always amusing how these things get reported.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Had to laugh at the BBC headline I just read from last night- ‘Injury hit Warrington lose at Wigan’. They were only missing Charnley, Austin and Hughes from there from there first choice side were they not? I raise that with Burgess, Manfredi, Flower, Bullock and O’Loughlin from ours. It’s always amusing how these things get reported.'"


It’s not like the BBC to be biased in any way.

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Quote: Wigg'n "There was no need to carry on going all out in the second half. Sit back, test our defence and soak up pressure. We turned it into an arm wrestle on purpose.

That said, Philbin changed the game for them, he was incredible and miles better than the pudding Chris Hill.

Marshall was outstanding for us (bombed try apart), what a player this kid is, never gives less than 100% even with injuries.

Leuluai was also a class apart, best half on the field. I can’t believe people on here still think Matty Smith is a decent player, championship standard at best.'"


But if we had carried on and won by 40/50 it would have closed our points difference right up and given us a chance of overturning their advantage.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Had to laugh at the BBC headline I just read from last night- ‘Injury hit Warrington lose at Wigan’. They were only missing Charnley, Austin and Hughes from there from there first choice side were they not? I raise that with Burgess, Manfredi, Flower, Bullock and O’Loughlin from ours. It’s always amusing how these things get reported.'"


Don't forget Davies and also the fact that we have never replaced T or Hamlin.

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Quote: Sweaty Betty's "Don't forget Davies and also the fact that we have never replaced T or Hamlin.'"


Aye, I was leaving Davies out on the basis Manfredi and Burgess would probably be first choice and Tautai wouldn’t be in our best 17 but Hamlin probably would’ve been. I guess you could say that for Kev Brown also though, had he been fully fit.

All in all based on fully fit squads at the start of 2019, they were 4 first choice 17 lads down and we were probably 6 down. Only goes to prove the headline was bonkers.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Aye, I was leaving Davies out on the basis Manfredi and Burgess would probably be first choice and Tautai wouldn’t be in our best 17 but Hamlin probably would’ve been. I guess you could say that for Kev Brown also though, had he been fully fit.

All in all based on fully fit squads at the start of 2019, they were 4 first choice 17 lads down and we were probably 6 down. Only goes to prove the headline was bonkers.'"


Marshall is in front of Burgess, I’d have Hardaker Manfredi Hankinson Gildart Marshall French Hastings next season

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Quote: CobraCraig "I like Philbin, looks really difficult to put down and has loads of aggression.'"

I wish that more of players played with his spirit, especially in the forwards.

It's role reversal for our respective clubs in the last two months, where Wigan had problems in the camp that now appear to be clearing, whereas were in a right hole, with a serious attitude problem in our camp.

I can't remember having such a low expectation of an impending cup final.

Bottom line is, I cant see anything other than a treble for Saints.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Had to laugh at the BBC headline I just read from last night- ‘Injury hit Warrington lose at Wigan’. They were only missing Charnley, Austin and Hughes from there from there first choice side were they not? I raise that with Burgess, Manfredi, Flower, Bullock and O’Loughlin from ours. It’s always amusing how these things get reported.'"
I'd argue Brown too as a pre season was wasted and we'd only just signed Smith.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I'd argue Brown too as a pre season was wasted and we'd only just signed Smith.'"


Aye, I mentioned him a bit further down. Realistically you were 4 down on a first choice 17 and we were minimum 5 and probably 6.

Not like it matters, everyone (bar Saints these past two years) gets runs of injuries are rarely go in with anything less than 4 or 5 players out. It was just a silly headline from the BBC.

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Boring game which was finished by half time. Wigan played alright, Warrington were dreadful and if Price doesn’t manage to fluke a final they should get rid. Looking like a Saints vs Wigan Grand Final with a Saints win. Wigan and Warrington are both nowhere near.

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