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| Whoever Wigan it will be a very tough game,every team left now is capable of beating each other.
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| Quote: yickpie24 "All the time - Lee Smith kicks Phil Bailey in the face, stays on the pitch and scores two tries at Headingley in 2009 (i think).
Yesterday Danny McGuire stiff arms Anderson, stays on the pitch and scores an important try.
Need I go on...'"
As pointed out elsewhere, surely the most blatant form of cheating is breaking the salary cap to either avoid relegation or win SL. Leeds are the only team that have won the title and never broke the cap.
As for on the field indiscretions. Every team has been guilty of those. Tomkins kicking McGuire has been highlighted and Lima had a few incidents last season that were not picked up at the time. All these though are examples of poor refereeing and not cheating. Wigan have the best example of cheating when breaking the cap to stay up.
HTH
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| Quote: The Magic Rat "As pointed out elsewhere, surely the most blatant form of cheating is breaking the salary cap to either avoid relegation or win SL. Leeds are the only team that have won the title and never broke the cap.
As for on the field indiscretions. Every team has been guilty of those. Tomkins kicking McGuire has been highlighted and Lima had a few incidents last season that were not picked up at the time. All these though are examples of poor refereeing and not cheating. Wigan have the best example of cheating when breaking the cap to stay up.
HTH'"
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| Thanks for playing along with my silly dream lol. As I got both of my predictions wrong this weekend, I'll leave it there and wish you all the best for the rest of the play-offs. I'll be cheering on Wigan from here.
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| How come the word 'scum' only come up when discussions involve Leeds? That is to and from Leeds.
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| Quote: Saville Row "As a Wire I wants Saints, motivation to right last week is all we need. Wigan won't pick Wire, we're beginning to be your bogey team.'"
Best thing to do with bogeys is to blow them out!
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| Quote: The Magic Rat "As pointed out elsewhere, surely the most blatant form of cheating is breaking the salary cap to either avoid relegation or win SL. Leeds are the only team that have won the title and never broke the cap.
As for on the field indiscretions. Every team has been guilty of those. Tomkins kicking McGuire has been highlighted and Lima had a few incidents last season that were not picked up at the time. All these though are examples of poor refereeing and not cheating. Wigan have the best example of cheating when breaking the cap to stay up.
HTH'"
I like how you classify different levels of cheating and dis-regard your incidents as 'indiscretions'. Maybe McDermott can tell the RFL beaks at McGuire's disciplinary it was an 'indiscreation' and becuase Wigan broke the salary cap a few seasons ago (and were punished) they should let him off. I would'nt worry though Hetherington has the RFL in his top pocket!!
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| Quote: yickpie24 "I like how you classify different levels of cheating and dis-regard your incidents as 'indiscretions'. Maybe McDermott can tell the RFL beaks at McGuire's disciplinary it was an 'indiscreation' and becuase Wigan broke the salary cap a few seasons ago (and were punished) they should let him off. I would'nt worry though Hetherington has the RFL in his top pocket!!'"
How can you describe McGuires swinging arm as cheating? It was foul play for which he may or may not get a ban. In the same way as Lima trying to injure a players knee with a illegal tackle is foul play.
Breaking the cap to avoid relegation is cheating
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| Quote: The Magic Rat "How can you describe McGuires swinging arm as cheating? It was foul play for which he may or may not get a ban. In the same way as Lima trying to injure a players knee with a illegal tackle is foul play.
Breaking the cap to avoid relegation is cheating'"
cheat
· v.
1 act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage. Ø deprive of something by deceitful or unfair means.
A shot to the head is definately cheating..... I would say thats it's "Unfair" at least....
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "cheat
· v.
1 act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage. Ø deprive of something by deceitful or unfair means.
A shot to the head is definately cheating..... I would say thats it's "Unfair" at least....'"
Well quoted, Mcguire stayed on the field and scored an importnat try if I am not mistaken, cheating in anyones book.
Maybe it's the Gary Hetherington book of definitions circulating in Leeds that is confusing them!!
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| Quote: The Magic Rat "How can you describe McGuires swinging arm as cheating? It was foul play for which he may or may not get a ban. In the same way as Lima trying to injure a players knee with a illegal tackle is foul play.
Breaking the cap to avoid relegation is cheating'"
I suppose you think Ryan Bailey is a clean player in Leeds, dear me!!
McGuire stiff armed a player, stayed on the pitch and scored an important try.
Mcllorum got sent off + a three game ban for a 'similar' incident.
No surprise Mr Thaler was refereeing on Friday and we all know the 'boo boo' (Stevo's words) he made in the CC semi.
I think your tryng to excuse foul play on the pitch as 'not' cheating...
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| Nobody is excusing what McGuire did it was a poor challenge just adding a little context to the situation.
It wasn't cheating in any sense.
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| Quote: rhinos21 "Nobody is excusing what McGuire did it was a poor challenge just adding a little context to the situation.
It wasn't cheating in any sense.'"
Surely, if you are penalized by the official, you have transgressed the rules... therefore you are cheating?
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "Surely, if you are penalized by the official, you have transgressed the rules... therefore you are cheating?'"
Looking at it in black and white terms then yes you can however there needs to be an element of common sense in sport.
If McGuire gets banned then fair enough if not the same.
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| Quote: rhinos21 "Looking at it in black and white terms then yes you can however there needs to be an element of common sense in sport.
If McGuire gets banned then fair enough if not the same.'"
Rules are normally written in black and white, or is it different for Leeds?... I'm trying to understand what you are trying to say...
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