This made me laugh at the game yesterday, of all the people you don't want to land on you, its Karl

But on the topic of Pryce, one of our main threats yesterday and was playing well up until his injury. I agree with Jimlav that if Pryce had dropped the ball Richards did, most people would be asking for him to be dropped.

Well Done Big Fella

Needs to toughen up a bit with regards to injury. Those years in yawnion have turned him into a brittle fairy.

This is just not true no matter how many times you post it to try and justify Pryce's place.

For the vast majority of the season we barely conceeded any tries down Gouldings side and in some games he saved us quite a few times, such as in the games against Saints and Warrington. This dodgy defensively thing seems to have started in the last few weeks when some people tried to blame him for any try that was scored remotely close to him on that right side. Coincidentally this is also when Pryce started playing and the people that have raved about Pryce since we signed him had to suddenly find faults in Goulding. Goulding was at fault for one try in the games that people were talking about but you wouldnt think it listening to some posters. He has certainly been at fault far less than people like Gleeson and Tomkins who seem to always escape criticism. Pryce himself has been at fault for as many and is all over the show defensively particularly in his only 2 games against decent teams.

In addition Gouldings return game beats Pryce's hand down whether this is kick returns, scoots or carries and as for work rate there is simply no comparison. Goulding also gets a much quicker play the ball than Pryce which puts us on the fronty foot. In dealing with kicks Pryce is all over the place when a kick, whether it is high or low, comes his way. Pryce is getting better but he still has an awful long way to go.

Although this will come across like i'm anti-Pryce, he actually did it 5 minutes before that. He was about to run into Foster and pulled up before diving to the floor infront of him. That jump just didn't help.

Pryce got caught out positionally a couple of times on Sunday lets see if he pays for this next week.

Regards return I was talking about try return.

But I have to say i think the fact Pryce is rarely if ever turtled is an indication that he gets a quicker play the ball.

I completely agree with 'Famous'.
Goulding has been fantastic for us all season, i think he has improved so much in defence and his attack speaks for itself. His tries may not have been fancy, but it doesn't matter about how fancy the try is, what matters is getting the points of the board, which is what he does.

He is a very quick and clever player, and i believe that he deserves the wing spot more than Karl Pryce. As Pryce is as tall as he is, he shouldnt be going down like a sack of potatoes, and he is slow at playing the ball.

I found it very annoying when he was dropped last week after having scored a hatrick the week before, i think that if we had played Darrell against saints instead of Pryce there may have been a different story.

He's making half a metre less per carry on average than Goulding, with about the same number of clean breaks per carry as Goulding. I feel Darrell is making decent metres, hence I feel Karl is making decent metres to. He's doing a decent job as is Darrell, neither of them would be getting picked if they weren't. I suspect he's doing pretty much exactly what the coaching staff are asking of him, what more can a player actually do other than do what's asked and make their coach happy?

Well for a start he needs to break every single tackle he goes in to. He needs to be able to out jump every single winger he comes up against. He needs to flatten every single opposition player he tackles. He needs to score every single try he gets an opportunity to score. He's bigger than Greg Inglis so he must be better than him.

That's all



Oh, and find a cure for the common cold.

If Pryce doesn't cure AIDS within the next 10 minutes he should be sacked.

Dave, i'm making it about as personal as dissecting what somebody has posted line by line and questioning a poster's knowledge level (which comes across rightly or wrongly as a really sly dig) rather than just having your say. Being called out is when you make statements about something or somebody, and say things like 'I can't actually believe you think he is that good given you profess to be (I believe) a student of the game', that somebody may call your statements and opinion into question. And then you feel that you're being attacked?????

A player's worth and performance can only really be assessed by our coaching staff, though i am prepared to entertain that MM maybe wrong across the board in his selection policy (rather than some odd premise that he's just blind over Karl Pryce) - that however is a totally separate debate.

Maybe Pryce and Goulding are not being selected on who is better than whom.
Perhaps they are being picked because MM wants to have a good look at Pryce over quite a few number of games.
MM may have decided that if Pat goes to fb then Pryce comes in on the left.
Should Amos go to 1 then Goulding will come in on the right.
It could perhaps be that either are being selected on where Pat and Amos play and that the coaching staff prefer Pryce left wing and Goulding right.
I just think the way the team have been selected we won't see Goulding play left wing nor Pryce on the right side.
Whether we like it or not I do feel that the selction of either Goulding or Pryce depends on where MM picks Pat and Amos rather than the merits of the two lads.