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| Quote: Odemwingie "Course you can but you would get docked points for it.'" A copy of all contracts is held by the Rfl, so any contract a club tries to register which would take you over the cap will be refused, thus no signing, no salary cap breach.Before clubs was audited after the season, so they was able to breach the cap, not any longer.
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "Why doesn't Odemwingie or any of the others stop and ask themselves this
Its always my name being branded around on here by wire fans
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| Some Wire fan I was talking to at the weekend told me "I'd just been talking to the chairman's best mate" and reeled off a list of signings being:
Myler
Atkins
Fui Fui Moi Moi (sp?)
I took it with a pinch of salt as I normally do with these kind of things but with this announcement it gives credence to the others. Wire certainly look like a club with ambition unlike us who just seem happy to settle for mediocrity.
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| Quote: manoa thompsons knees "A copy of all contracts is held by the Rfl, so any contract a club tries to register which would take you over the cap will be refused, thus no signing, no salary cap breach.Before clubs was audited after the season, so they was able to breach the cap, not any longer.'"
I do not for one minute think the contracts of Warrington players are in breach of the cap, as has already been exposed though its the payments away from these which are a potential tax mindfield that increase the payments to players and unofficial sponsors etc.
Again though i do not have an issue with this, it does go on, and fair play to the clubs who do it, it would be moronic to be against the cap in its current format and slate a club for finding ways around it.
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| Quote: jonh "I do not for one minute think the contracts of Warrington players are in breach of the cap, as has already been exposed though its the payments away from these which are a potential tax mindfield that increase the payments to players and unofficial sponsors etc.
Again though i do not have an issue with this, it does go on, and fair play to the clubs who do it, it would be moronic to be against the cap in its current format and slate a club for finding ways around it.'"
So if thats not against the "spirit of the cap" what is ??
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| Wigan were splashing out the cash left right and before the days of the internet revolution, in a time Wigan were the only player in Rugby League, the rest of us were just a side act to the Wigan show.
So for you lot to be criticising the Wire for splashing the cash is a bit rich. If the Wire do break any salary cap rules that is the time to have a go, until then think you will have to live with the fact the Wire have a wealthy backer who is willing to invest. 20 years ago you were doing the same but on a bigger scale which in turn almost ruined the great game of ours.
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| Quote: wigan_knight "So if thats not against the "spirit of the cap" what is ??'"
Only if proved which is far easier said than done.
As i said i don't have a problem with it personally, each Chairman decides if they want to go down this route and as I am against the cap in its current form you cannot really slate a club for finding ways around it.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Its always my name being branded around on here by wire fans
i wonder why, price of infamy?
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Course you can but you would get docked points for it.'"
Incorrect once again my friend... the RFL will not allow you to register a player if they contract will push you over the salary cap... hence the word "live"!!
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| Quote: AJR "Incorrect once again my friend... the RFL will not allow you to register a player if they contract will push you over the salary cap... hence the word "live"!!'"
think you can its just you get done there and then instead of waiting for the end of year
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| Quote: pedro17 "think you can its just you get done there and then instead of waiting for the end of year'"
nope, they just don't allow you to register the player.
Hence no more salary cap breaches.
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| Quote: steviewire "Wigan were splashing out the cash left right and Centre before the days of the internet revolution, in a time Wigan were the only player in Rugby League, the rest of us were just a side act to the Wigan show.
So for you lot to be criticising the Wire for splashing the cash is a bit rich. If the Wire do break any salary cap rules that is the time to have a go, until then think you will have to live with the fact the Wire have a wealthy backer who is willing to invest. 20 years ago you were doing the same but on a bigger scale which in turn almost ruined the great game of ours.'"
You don't half know how to re-write RL history. I think you will find Widnes and Leeds were hardly averse to splashing the cash as you put it and had varying degrees of success when they did. Leeds failing spectacularly first singing up Hull's star players like Crooks and Schofield and then going after some of Wigan's.
The difference was Wigan were innovative off-field not just in terms of going full time (which only happened in 1991/92 season by the way) but by employing specialist sprint coaches and so on. We also produced many of our own players.
It is however much easier for people like you to ignore all those facts and say basically we bought success. Leeds proved you need more than money to have success. Whether there is that sort of off-field organisation Wigan had back then currently at our club now I have my doubts given the way some players look and play. I remember signing McInty from Wire and seeing him improve here which was not a coincidence. Now the opposite seems to be the case when players leave.
So we can all spend the same money up to the limit of the cap but just like Leeds spent at least as much as Wigan if not more that won't mean the trophies are equally shared out hence the recent dominance of Leeds and Saints.
I know Wire can't break a live cap just as Wigan can't and there may have been loopholes exploited by the likes of Wire and Saints but if there were, you should be in favour of them being closed as you seem so fond of a level playing field.
As to Wigan nearly ruining the game, don't be so stupid. We dominated the cup for 8 years not the league, premiership and regal trophy.
Dave
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| All that will happen is that Myler will sign for Wire at the end of the season. He will still be a Salford players until then (it will be from either 1st November or 1st December), just as Long and Gilmour are Saints players until then but are moving on.
At that point he will be registered if Wire have sufficient space on the salary cap. They will have to release players (i.e. Johnson) to accommodate him.
In many ways it's just like giving notice to leave a "normal" job.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "All that will happen is that Myler will sign for Wire at the end of the season. He will still be a Salford players until then (it will be from either 1st November or 1st December), just as Long and Gilmour are Saints players until then but are moving on.
At that point he will be registered if Wire have sufficient space on the salary cap. They will have to release players (i.e. Johnson) to accommodate him.
In many ways it's just like giving notice to leave a "normal" job.'" Correct, Johno and Rah are leaving plus Gleeson and Reardon gone, in come Mathers, Myler and Atkins with money to spare i would say. Would say the 4 out will have earned more than the 3 in.....easy really.
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| I don't really understand fan's arguments regarding transfer fees. What relevance does it have to us fans? If Moran has a squillion quid to splash out on a player then all power to him. The Wire fan have no reason to concern themselves with that. The only point of interest to us as fans is whether the players can be accomodated under the cap and what effect that will have on squad depth. Transfer fees are an irrelevance.
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