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| Good resilience and grit from the boys against a strong and improving Hull team. I thought our young forwards gave absolutely everything and deserve great credit. Singleton and Farrell very good as well. We couldn't get our outside backs into the game but perhaps understandable with all the disruption. Field got us out of a hole yet again.
Smith had a decent start to the game but continues to look low in confidence. You have to hand it to him for knocking over those drop goals when we need them though.
More reshuffling for Wakefield next week it looks like with Marshall and Isa coming off. Great to have a deep squad that can deal with it though.
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| Weird, I thought Smith had a good solid game, much better than Cust who I barely noticed
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| Man of the match my backside
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| That run from Farrell in our own half gave us fantastic position for Smiths drop goal. Although I actually thought we screwed it up minutes earlier when we were closer to the posts and decided to fling it wide only for Hardaker to fumble it, I was sure we'd blown it at that point.
Fair play, it took guts to win that match against a strong Hull pack especially when finding ourselves six points down on two occasions in the 2nd half.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "Lucky to get the win there IMO. Attack was very one dimensional and lacked fluidity. Jai Field dug is out the proverbial again which isn’t a good thing.
Smith/Partington were very poor. I am struggling to see a future at Wigan for either of them and that’s a huge turnaround from what I was saying months ago about Smith.
Still, 2pts in the bag and a confidence booster building towards hammering those lot from over the hill on Good Friday
Fair points.
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| It just felt a weird game to me. The start was so much more comfortable than I expected and we were going well and then the whole ground and the team just felt flat and after that Hull seemed comfortably the better side. I felt like we stole the game really but they’re in good form, so we’ll take it.
We missed Leuluai in general but nobody misses him more than Cust. He really looks like a guy that currently wants to play second fiddle and when Leuluai is there controlling things, he just seems more at ease.
As for the rest it was a mixed bag. It looked disjointed with us needing to constantly shuffle things around. I’m more than pleased with the start Peet has made but I hope a second rower at centre when we don’t need to do it isn’t going to continue.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It just felt a weird game to me. The start was so much more comfortable than I expected and we were going well and then the whole ground and the team just felt flat and after that Hull seemed comfortably the better side. I felt like we stole the game really but they’re in good form, so we’ll take it.
We missed Leuluai in general but nobody misses him more than Cust. He really looks like a guy that currently wants to play second fiddle and when Leuluai is there controlling things, he just seems more at ease.
As for the rest it was a mixed bag. It looked disjointed with us needing to constantly shuffle things around. I’m more than pleased with the start Peet has made but I hope a second rower at centre when we don’t need to do it isn’t going to continue.'"
Our three quarter line is difficult to figure out atm, maybe for Peet as well. We have options but barely anyone has a nailed on position. Hardaker's on the wing but probably would be better at centre. KPP was moved to the centres out of nowhere but now he's gone for a while. Bibby doesn't look right at centre to me - he probably would look better on the wing. I'm not sure whether Thornley is seen primarily as a winger or a centre. Miski is still waiting in the wings and we may now be playing French on the wing to just get him on the field somewhere. And in amongst all of that we played all three of our backrowers at centre at some point during tonight's game.
No clue what we'll go with next week. My best guess is Hardaker/French on the right and Bibby/Thornley on the left.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It just felt a weird game to me. The start was so much more comfortable than I expected and we were going well and then the whole ground and the team just felt flat and after that Hull seemed comfortably the better side. I felt like we stole the game really but they’re in good form, so we’ll take it.
We missed Leuluai in general but nobody misses him more than Cust. He really looks like a guy that currently wants to play second fiddle and when Leuluai is there controlling things, he just seems more at ease.
As for the rest it was a mixed bag. It looked disjointed with us needing to constantly shuffle things around. I’m more than pleased with the start Peet has made but I hope a second rower at centre when we don’t need to do it isn’t going to continue.'"
Nailed on Farrell and Bateman in the centres then next week
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| Don’t understand the criticism of Mago.
He came on at vital times of the game and provided go forward when Hull were getting on top.
Partington I thought had a good game too starting to provide some go forward.
Smith was his usual mixed bag. Drop goal won the game but the weight of the pass to Isa was poor, passing accuracy was poor and a couple of unforced errors. Cust though was worse tonight. It comes to something when TL is the best half in the club and most of us wanted to retire!
Marshall I thought was outstanding before going off and Faz probably won us the game with his line running.
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| Quote: MadDogg "Our three quarter line is difficult to figure out atm, maybe for Peet as well. We have options but barely anyone has a nailed on position. Hardaker's on the wing but probably would be better at centre. KPP was moved to the centres out of nowhere but now he's gone for a while. Bibby doesn't look right at centre to me - he probably would look better on the wing. I'm not sure whether Thornley is seen primarily as a winger or a centre. Miski is still waiting in the wings and we may now be playing French on the wing to just get him on the field somewhere. And in amongst all of that we played all three of our backrowers at centre at some point during tonight's game.
No clue what we'll go with next week. My best guess is Hardaker/French on the right and Bibby/Thornley on the left.'"
It’s a really tough puzzle to work out for next week. It’s totally understandable but I thought French looked weeks off being up to speed and next week will be a tough tough game. We’re using a quota spot on Miski and not playing him and instead choosing to play a centre/fullback on the wing and a second row at centre. That worries me tbh if we’d rather do that than play Miski.
If Marshall misses out next week, I’d probably go-
2-Bibby 3-Hardaker 4-Thornley 5-Miski and hold French back again and use him as and when needed from the bench.
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| Quote: jonh "Don’t understand the criticism of Mago.
He came on at vital times of the vane and provided go forward when Hull were getting on top.
Partington I thought had a good game too starting to provide some go forward.
Smith was his usual mixed bag. Drop goal won the game but the weight of the pass to Isa was poor, passing accuracy was poor and a couple of unforced errors. Cust though was worse tonight. It comes to something when TL is the best half in the club and most of us wanted to retire!
Marshall I thought was outstanding before going off and Faz probably won us the game with his line running.'"
Other than a couple of daft penalties I thought Partington really lifted us again. His energy, competitiveness and a couple of kick chases really helped get us going at a time I felt we were flat.
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| Quote: MadDogg "Our three quarter line is difficult to figure out atm, maybe for Peet as well. We have options but barely anyone has a nailed on position. Hardaker's on the wing but probably would be better at centre. KPP was moved to the centres out of nowhere but now he's gone for a while. Bibby doesn't look right at centre to me - he probably would look better on the wing. I'm not sure whether Thornley is seen primarily as a winger or a centre. Miski is still waiting in the wings and we may now be playing French on the wing to just get him on the field somewhere. And in amongst all of that we played all three of our backrowers at centre at some point during tonight's game.
No clue what we'll go with next week. My best guess is Hardaker/French on the right and Bibby/Thornley on the left.'"
I don't understand why you split up a Zak/Bibby partnership that has scored plenty of tries over the last few years. I'd also rather see Halsall at centre than Bateman.
We finally have a fully fit side to pick from but we're still picking the team as though we have a batch of injuries.
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| Quote: jonh "Don’t understand the criticism of Mago.
He came on at vital times of the game and provided go forward when Hull were getting on top.
Partington I thought had a good game too starting to provide some go forward.
Smith was his usual mixed bag. Drop goal won the game but the weight of the pass to Isa was poor, passing accuracy was poor and a couple of unforced errors. Cust though was worse tonight. It comes to something when TL is the best half in the club and most of us wanted to retire!
Marshall I thought was outstanding before going off and Faz probably won us the game with his line running.'"
Not sure if Mago is carrying an injury so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
If he isn’t then the training staff and management team need a good talking to. The fastest and strongest he ran all night was when he was substituted. Not impressed with him at all. 8 minutes in the first half when it’s hey lads hey just isn’t enough. If he’s carrying an injury then far do’s but if not he needs a good proper kick up the arris.
Agree wholeheartedly with Partington, Marshall, Cust and Farrell comments.
Haven’t been to a game for a couple of weeks and enjoyed it albeit the atmosphere was almost non existent.
Very happy with the result. Last season we would have lost the game so the improvement in commitment and the ability to turn things around is great to see.
We are miles off being a top team but I’m assured to see some improvement. An unbalanced squad and too low a tempo are still for me the critical factors. We are improving so overall I’m relatively happy.
Field is covering a multitude of cracks but it’s a pleasure to watch him. No substitute for pace and he has it by the shed load.
Smith for me is a bit of an enigma. Flashes of class combined with regular awful and wasteful distribution. I want him to succeed but not sure if he ever will. Having said that without him we could potentially be 4 points lower in the league. I really want the lad to be a success and hopefully he can turn in a more consistent performances.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Not sure if Mago is carrying an injury so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
If he isn’t then the training staff and management team need a good talking to. The fastest and strongest he ran all night was when he was substituted. Not impressed with him at all. 8 minutes in the first half when it’s hey lads hey just isn’t enough. If he’s carrying an injury then far do’s but if not he needs a good proper kick up the arris.
Agree wholeheartedly with Partington, Marshall, Cust and Farrell comments.
Haven’t been to a game for a couple of weeks and enjoyed it albeit the atmosphere was almost non existent.
Very happy with the result. Last season we would have lost the game so the improvement in commitment and the ability to turn things around is great to see.
We are miles off being a top team but I’m assured to see some improvement. An unbalanced squad and too low a tempo are still for me the critical factors. We are improving so overall I’m relatively happy.
Field is covering a multitude of cracks but it’s a pleasure to watch him. No substitute for pace and he has it by the shed load.
Smith for me is a bit of an enigma. Flashes of class combined with regular awful and wasteful distribution. I want him to succeed but not sure if he ever will. Having said that without him we could potentially be 4 points lower in the league. I really want the lad to be a success and hopefully he can turn in a more consistent performances.'"
Pretty much agree with all that. It’s nice to be winning games and scoring points but it still feels like we’re well short of challenging Saints. The tempo point is my biggest worry. We seem to be able to get some tempo and momentum going for 5-10 minutes spells here and there but can’t sustain it. The lack of control from the halves left me counting our lucky stars Tommy is back next week. I think with him we can get the job done at Wakey but without him, we could very quickly find ourselves in trouble and in a tough atmosphere I’d worry about the ability of Cust and Smith to settle the team down and manage the game.
On the plus side it’s at least entertaining and Peet has taken us some steps in the right direction. Make no bones about it, we still need to work on this squad and make some good calls with recruitment and retentions but if we get them right I’m happy we can keep moving forward.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Not sure if Mago is carrying an injury so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
If he isn’t then the training staff and management team need a good talking to. The fastest and strongest he ran all night was when he was substituted. Not impressed with him at all. 8 minutes in the first half when it’s hey lads hey just isn’t enough. If he’s carrying an injury then far do’s but if not he needs a good proper kick up the arris.
Agree wholeheartedly with Partington, Marshall, Cust and Farrell comments.
Haven’t been to a game for a couple of weeks and enjoyed it albeit the atmosphere was almost non existent.
Very happy with the result. Last season we would have lost the game so the improvement in commitment and the ability to turn things around is great to see.
We are miles off being a top team but I’m assured to see some improvement. An unbalanced squad and too low a tempo are still for me the critical factors. We are improving so overall I’m relatively happy.
Field is covering a multitude of cracks but it’s a pleasure to watch him. No substitute for pace and he has it by the shed load.
Smith for me is a bit of an enigma. Flashes of class combined with regular awful and wasteful distribution. I want him to succeed but not sure if he ever will. Having said that without him we could potentially be 4 points lower in the league. I really want the lad to be a success and hopefully he can turn in a more consistent performances.'"
All I will say in relation to Mago is watch how the momentum changes when he is on.
It’s only brief I agree but he is clearly along with Smithies being used a certain way.
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