I’m with you on the fact Peet wouldn’t have been my choice either and I’ve said before, I felt we needed a new broom sweeping through, with a new man coming in and bringing in his assistants and helping choose his players but Lenagan just won’t do that, so in that case what can we do? It’s not Peets fault and he may well have an ability to implement his own ideas and change the way we play but I get it’s the sort of appointment you usually make to keep a steady ship ticking over.

All roads lead back to cost IMO. I see Shaun Edwards came out and reiterated his point that the club had made no efforts to speak to the back room staff he asked for, a full 4 months after he’d accepted the job. We can believe who we want but the points at the forum about the costs of having a clean sweep of staff would add weight to Edwards points.

Ultimately it’s Lenagans money and he can do as he pleases. He’s propping the club up and seems to have decided to try and limit the losses by cutting costs. That is a poor strategy IMO because it’ll drive more people away but he tried throwing money at it by bringing in George Burgess, Hastings, French etc and got burned by a few factors, including injury and than a global pandemic. I do have some sympathy for the situation he finds himself in.

I would rather Peet have taken over from Wane than Lam, I dont see how you can promote from within after the last 3 seasons, in fact I cant see how any of the coaches can keep their jobs after the last 3 seasons

Apologies. it looks like I'm following you around

You really don't think our defence coach deserves a chance? That's the thing that's kept us in the top 6. Only 2 teams with better defence than us despite our injury issues.

As pointed out on another thread he’s an assistant just as Wane, Mags, Holbrook, Bellamy and a whole raft of other coaches were. It is an unarguable fact that every Head Coach is promoted from assistant coach to that or another club. You’re talking of wanting him to get experienced and be experienced but you have no clue as to what he does or how good he is at our club right now. Neither of us hold a crystal ball and can say either way what’s going to happen - but even if we somehow did a modern miracle and brought in Bellamy, there’s no guarantee it works out. Every appointment is a risk, some higher than others.

He wouldn’t have been my choice admittedly but we’ve got to get behind him and support his tenure right up until we don’t. He deserves that at least.

The reason he has been picked is the same reason the likes of Martin McLoughlin was given the role of Marketing Director. Another internal appointment thats smacks of lack of imagination and lack of talent identification and more jobs for the boys which didn't pay off. Is IL and KR scared to death they'll get some chancer from the outside so would rather give the job to someone they already see every day no matter how good they are?

If we were riding high then it wouldn't be that bad to appoint an internal candidate but we are not, we need rebuilding. I'm not having a former coach of Wigan youth has earned their stripes because anyone could coach Wigan academy and be successful because of the players in the set up.

I want a coach appointed who gets the zing back, who can bring back my want to watch Wigan, and appointing Peet would be more nepotism at the club.

It won't matter you anyway post so I don't know why you're so angry about it

I have been watching Wigan since 1961 and in all that time I have never missed watching a live game during the season. Even when we were bad in the 70’s and early 80’s I travelled all over to watch them. I was at the first game against Fulham, watched them play in France and twice in Australia. But this season is a first for me. I haven’t been to a single game. For a while I was a little concerned about being in the vulnerable age group for covid but latterly I was just uninspired by the total lack of imagination in attack. I listen to Cooper Cronk a lot and he waxes lyrical about the half back’s prime job of taking on the line and that a good half back creates three options when he gets to the line. I haven’t seen that all season from either Smith or Hastings and that, for me, is down to coaching.

Like almost everyone else I am uninspired by the signings for next season and the rumoured coaching promotion of Matty Peet. But unlike others I am prepared to give them a chance. And who knows, if our attack improves even marginally we may start to look attractive again and I will be back watching live. I really do hope so because 2022 has a ring of last chance saloon about it.

And you know Peet won’t do that how? Because he’s coached a team that, in your opinion doesn’t need coaching? Come off it man.

Equally I don’t know if he will be a success. But I’m willing to give him a chance and support his reign. Not write it off before it’s even been officially announced like some who last I heard had no desire to watch Wigan again. So with that in mind, why do you care?

Over the season, some supporters have called Lam rotten for being a Coach with no previous experience as a top Coach, but now want to replace him with someone who also has no real experience has a top experienced Coach and has been part of the same coaching team under Lam.

Talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire!

No. They've called him rotten for being a coach.

And no doubt, many other Coaches would have been the same with the squad we now have at the club, especially during the last season when due to injuries, some long term, more than normal suspensions and a squad of only around a couple of dozen players due to the terrible financial situation of the club.

You can not make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!

Lam has had a couple of unusual circumstances (Edwards/Covid) to deal with

The same squad that in all 3 years were tipped by most to finish top 2/3 in their predictions
A squad that has got numerous internationals/man of steel winners/ multiple GF, CC and WCC winners.
A squad that despite what you say above has as much if not more depth than most clubs in SL

Injuries - seem unfortunate, some hes managed their game time terribly
Suspensions - Some really stupid ones, my take is the players were becoming increasingly frustrated and ultimately, its his culture thatvhe installs that creates the discipline (or lack of).

I admire your defence of Lam despite the overwhelming evidence
3 years of progressively worse rugby which, IMO, left us looking at times amateurish in its style of play etc.
Baffling statements in the press
Baffling team selections (I've said previously there's been multiple occasions it was know players weren't playing and he claimed it was a alst minute issue to defend/make excuses for poor results) and how hes dealt with certain players etc. Behindnthe scenes and the problems that created.
Constant failure (apart from a 5/6 game spell end of 2020) to compete and/or win big games/semi finals etc.
10 half decent/good performances in what? A hundred or more matches, simply nowhere near good enough

I could go on, but won't, because your not interested in facts. You just want to blame it all on IL and Rads and be controversial (When IL and Rads have had a Hundred times more on their plates than Lam, but you don't afford them the luxury of your empathy).
I look forward to you accusing me of bullying you, being part of some clique, having a go at you or anyone else who has different opinions when in reality its you who is the one who cries loudest and longest about other peoples opinions when they dont match your own.

There’s no excuse for the poor rugby played or the bizarre selections and post/pre match comments. He should have gone after his first season, the signs were there and I called it back then.

If he needs a lift to the airport I’ll happily oblige.