Richards was not the outstanding player in the nrl, he would have won the daly m and golden boot and got a game at origin and test level instead of Playing for Ireland.

If he scored a good try in 2005 good on him, it dont make him the best winger in the world in 2010

Plenty of men of steel and top points scores have not been the best player in the world in their position.

All those blokes who you think richards is head and shoulders better than are current origin and Aussie or kiwi internationals. something Richards can only dream about.

your arguments are weak and like a t-bag.

Richards is a good winger and was awesome in 2010 in sl. But your rant says nothing about how or way you think he is obviously head and shoulders the best winger in the world right now. Which in reality as an opinion is deluded.

For nearly half a season he wasn't even the best winger in your team.

Richards is a great kicker, a great leader and is so good under the high ball that teams don't even bother kicking to him on the last tackle. He has a great haircut and looked awesome with a cast on his leg whilst holding the Super League trophy aloft..

Not wrong mate, Pat's better than all the guys you quoted and im still waiting for you to explain why he isn't. I just tried to inject a little bit of humour into an argument neither of us is likely to win.

Richards was a top winger in the NRL and is better than Boyd could ever wish to be. Amos was in superb form for part of the season last year but was cruely hit with a very bad injury. Amos is better than some of the wingers you've gone with but Pat has been the best winger at Wigan for some time now. Your wrong i'm right and im off to bed..Sweet dreams!!

You are a joke and unable to view rugby league with an even hand. I'm sure it wont bother you in the slightest that I won't be chatting with you again. You like many of your fello pie eaters are so blinkered its genuinly laughable.



I wonder what he did wrong to get punished by the rugby gods?

Bit in bold made me laugh

Also I remember when Leeds fans were banging on about Donald being the best finisher in the league? He didnt seem like he was all that in the last game he played for Leeds?

Richards has been the complete player this season and has more strings to his bow then some of the other wingers mentioned. For me he has been the most valuable player this year and that is why he is regarded as one of the best wingers in RL. You bang on all you like about other players but stats show this season Richards has been one of the best wingers in RL.

Just realised this is a thread about Sam Tomkins?!

Its definately all based on opinion. I wouldnt personally say he is head and shoulders the best winger in the world, but he is probably one of the most complete players and certainly the most valuable winger in relation to Wigan. I would swap him for any other winger in the world currently maybe apart from Waine Pryce.

What amuses me most about threads like this is the undercurrent of Wigan hatred and British insecurity.

Some of the irrelevant points being made about Pat such as him not being in the Aussie team are unbelievable. Of course he isn't in the Aussie team. If Mal Meninga had come over to play for Wigan in the early '90s the Aussies would not have selected him for internationals, they don't pick any players playing overseas. Its difficult to have a discussion with people who appear to know very little about RL.

Here's some statistical evidence from the NRL - Pat scored 20 tries in an NRL season. You can't do that unless you are a world class player.

Pat is now being coached by one of the best coaches in the world and in one of the best backroom set ups in the world. The Maguire regime is absolutely top class - I await the supporters of other clubs arguing the contrary in the usual bitter, Wigan hating way but you would be better off accepting the reality that Wigan are back on top again and utilising your energies in urging your own clubs to try to catch us up.

Its no wonder that under Maguire an already world class player at his physical peak is in superb form.

So, I have suggested that an unquestionably world class player who is flourishing under the Maguire regime and was not only in the best form of his life but who continued at the same high standard throughout 2010 is the best player in the world in his position.

I'm not surprised that some people disagree with this statement but the reaction has been ridiculous. This is typical of the narrow minded, Wigan hating obsessives that infest this board, unfortunately.

And I still haven't seen any performances in the Four Nations by any winger that suggest I'm wrong. I await the final with interest. If someone is playing on the wing to a higher standard that Pat has throughout 2010 then they will be a truly great player.

But the same applies to pretty much the whole England team. The different class of opposition made all of them (except perhaps Roby) look worse than they do in club games.

Which does happen alot, some players can't seem to carry their club form to international games.

Sean long springs to mind, awesome player at saints but looks a little inside himself at international level.

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