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Quote: DISA "No they wouldn't.
IN YOUR OPINION

And had they done it would have been wrong, with no doubt no complaining from the likes of you.
IN YOUR OPINION

I was sat directly behind the obstruction situation and was screaming as to why Smith even went to the video. It was as clear a no try obstruciton as you are likely to see,
IN YOUR OPINION
and the touch judge indicated this to him immediatley.

As I was behind the posts I could not comment at the time on the offiside ruling, as I also could not see the video clearly. But on watching on TV later, you can see it is clear.
IN YOUR OPINION I agree BTW but again it's still an opinion.

The ref obviously knew this as he went to the video for checking.'"


But He didn't go for the Burrow Try from Kirkes (IMO) Forward pass.??

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Quote: DISA "
While we mention Smith getting things wrong. Where do you stand on the clear cheap shot punch for all to see from hock on Sinfield, whilst Loughling was hold of his collar and another Wigan player pulling at him? ?'"


It wasn't hard enough????























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Quote: Jukesays "But He didn't go for the Burrow Try from Kirkes (IMO) Forward pass.??'"


So saying the dissallowing of Hocks, and the other try was right is an opinion? icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Do me a favour mate. You were right on the Manly game that is all opinions. But your not right here.

They were both no try's as per the video ref not giving them. Both by the rules of the game. Thats not opinion, that is FACT.

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Quote: DISA "So saying the dissallowing of Hocks, and the other try was right is an opinion? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: DISA "Seriously, are you on medication or something? or is this a wind up.

No, Just an attempt to calmly express an OPINION about something that others think incorrectly is a FACT!

Do you know the rules of the game? I suggest you read them. Because if you knew them you would see that the dissallowed tries were entirely correct decisions, FACT.

Incorrect! But I think we best agree to disagree, that is what OPINIONS are all about!

It is an opinion if there is some debate as to whether the rule was broken at all. There is not debate here, unless the person debating is clueless.

You Mean Clueless in that he has a different OPINION to Yourself!

I will give you that the Kirke pass on first seeing could be open to debate and an opinion. But you only have to watch the match on telly afterwards to see that he clearly passes the ball in a backwards motion and the ball its the ground and bounces forward. In the eyes of the ref no rule was broken and therefore not dissallowed. And no doubt had he gone to the VR same decision.

In Your Opinion, Yet in the Opinion of others who like yourself have watched the game on TV afterwards the Ball came out of his hands before/on the 20 metre line and landed 1-2 mtrs in front (I agree that Donald Didn't touch it) of the 20mtr line deems this as forward/Knock on!

But I will give you that any 50/50 call is opinion. Shame you can not see that the other two calls were 100% correct, nothing near to 50/50.'"


I Didn't say they were 50/50, I said I agreed with the Ainscough one & I Disagreed with the Hock one!
IN MY OPINION! Not Fact, Just Opinion!


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I Thought that Peacock's was 50/50, It was given, we get on with it!

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Quote: DISA "Not that I agree with you on the lines, because I dont. But what matters is does Kirke pass the ball in a backwards motion. The answer is Yes.

Where does Kirke end up in relation to the ball?'"


Flat on his face behind where the ball lands?????

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Quote: Jukesays "I Didn't say they were 50/50, I said I agreed with the Ainscough one & I Disagreed with the Hock one!
IN MY OPINION! Not Fact, Just Opinion!


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I Thought that Peacock's was 50/50, It was given, we get on with it!'"


I thought that Peacocks was 50/50 at the time too. But does not the rules state that if you can not categorically see that a try was notscored legitamittly, that you give benefit of doubt? Therefore try rightfully awarded.

You are still wrong on the Hock one, and you cant admit it. It is not opinion that the ref was correct or wrong, it is FACT. Read the rules and you will see that it was correct, which makes it FACT.

Yes, you dissagreeign is opiniion, but that does not change the fact that the try was rightfully dissallowed.

And watch the Ainscough try again.

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Quote: DISA "I thought that Peacocks was 50/50 at the time too. But does not the rules state that if you can not categorically see that a try was notscored legitamittly, that you give benefit of doubt? Therefore try rightfully awarded.

Not Sure??? I havent read the Rule book but my understanding is that if the VR "Thinks" that in all probability a Try has been scored but the Video does not prove this then he give BOTD.
If He can't see on the Video though and He Doesn't "Think" a try has been scored he can Disallow it, He doesnt have to give it!
So my understanding of the rule is different to yours but either way I would have give Peacocks.


You are still wrong on the Hock one, and you cant admit it. It is not opinion that the ref was correct or wrong, it is FACT. Read the rules and you will see that it was correct, which makes it FACT.

So No other try as ever been given by the Video Ref were the "Underside" defender came into contact with a Dummy Runner?
I have seen numerous tries given in similar circumstances where the Defender makes no attempt to tackle the attacker but simply chooses the wrong man and makes the Lazy decision as to which runner to tackle.
If we had a rule where every time an attacking dummy runner came into contact with a defender the try was disallowed we wouldn't see half the tries we do now & Saints May never score another try again!

HOWEVER
I Still stand by my statement that I believe it should have been given as a try as any circumstance similar to this would be ajudicated on by the VR and His interpretation of the rule! Otherwise as I said earlier the only way he could decide what to give would be from a Rule Book And EVERY TRY would be disallowed where a dummy runner came into contact with a defender.



Yes, you dissagreeign is opiniion, but that does not change the fact that the try was rightfully dissallowed.

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