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17903_1300914398.jpg [color=#FF0000:1a02isux][b:1a02isux]IN A WARRIORS CODE THERE'S NO SURRENDER....THOUGH HIS BODY SAYS STOP, HIS SPIRIT CRY'S NEVER!!!![/b:1a02isux][/color:1a02isux]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17903.jpg |
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| Quote: jonh "Ellis is far superior to any backrow in the UK at the moment. I seriously do not think Hock has performed anywhere near the level Ellis is performing at now.
The bloke was good when he left the UK, now he is outstanding. Regards backrow players he is up there with Thaiday and Taylor competing for best in the game.
If Joel can get close to his level he will have had a very good career.'"
Spot on Jonh
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| Quote: cadoo "Excellent news.
Although I must confess, a part of me would have loved to have seen him rip it up in the NRL. It makes me chuckle when they harp on about Gareth Ellis. Alright, he's an excellent player in his own right, but Gareth Hock or Joel Tomkins would be devastating in the NRL.'"
To suggest Tomkins or Hock are anywere near the level of Ellis is crazy. Ellis was better than Hock even before Hock was suspended so id say hes fields ahead now, Joel still has alot to prove also. Hes been far from spectacular the second half of this year IMO.
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10172_1376829585.jpg Dan Sarginson: "This is a fantastic opportunity for me to join the biggest name in the competition" 18/10/2013
Tony Clubb: "This is a new exciting chapter of my life signing for Wigan and I couldn't be happier" 18/10/2013
Romain Navarrete: “I’m very happy to have signed for Wigan Warriors. As soon I knew that Wigan were interested, they were the only team that I wanted to sign for. To me, Wigan is the biggest Club in Rugby League and it will be an honour to pull on the famous Cherry-and-White jersey next year. I look forward to working with Shaun Wane and the players at Wigan.”:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10172.jpg |
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| Quote: 8inarow "at the same time Mathers was taking all his training gear to the charity shop , according to his titter account,
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| Young Ryan King has just been given a new 3 year contract . one for the future i recon
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30366_1604259384.jpg [color=#000000:3fno8grb]Rugby Union: When entertainment just isn't your thing. [/color:3fno8grb]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30366.jpg |
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| Quote: Bill_Barlow "To suggest Tomkins or Hock are anywere near the level of Ellis is crazy. Ellis was better than Hock even before Hock was suspended so id say hes fields ahead now, Joel still has alot to prove also. Hes been far from spectacular the second half of this year IMO.'"
If both were given a shot in the NRL I believe both would surpass Gareth Ellis. I think they have far more attributes to their game than Gareth Ellis does.
Right now there's no debate. Of course Gareth Ellis is better than them both.
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47997_1274724262.jpg Ers tha' geet bitter on?:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47997.jpg |
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| Quote: cadoo "If both were given a shot in the NRL I believe both would surpass Gareth Ellis. I think they have far more attributes to their game than Gareth Ellis does.
Right now there's no debate. Of course Gareth Ellis is better than them both.'"
A slightly rose-tinted perspective if you ask me. Yes Joel's had a very good season this year but it's been peppered with several brainfarts that have sometimes been costly to the team. If he's going to be considered in the same class as Ellis he needs to cut them out. Hock was the same. He could go from the sublime to the ridiculous in seconds
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| Quote: jameswk "Young Ryan King has just been given a new 3 year contract . one for the future i recon'"
That's excellent news, and yes, he is!
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| Quote: cadoo "If both were given a shot in the NRL I believe both would surpass Gareth Ellis. I think they have far more attributes to their game than Gareth Ellis does.
Right now there's no debate. Of course Gareth Ellis is better than them both.'"
I think you are underestimating the skill factor of Ellis. I have seen him play centre, standoff and loose all to a very very good standard.
The main difference is that he has a much much better ability to pick a pass than Hock.
He has the meanest defence of any English player and consistently runs some outstanding lines.
I think that is the key word. I do not think Hock will ever be the player Ellis is, but Joel has the potential to IF he can continue to improve and mature whilst becoming more consistent.
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| Quote: jonh "I think you are underestimating the skill factor of Ellis. I have seen him play centre, standoff and loose all to a very very good standard. The main difference is that he has a much much better ability to pick a pass than Hock.
He has the meanest defence of any English player and consistently runs some outstanding lines.
I think that is the key word. I do not think Hock will ever be the player Ellis is, but Joel has the potential to IF he can continue to improve and mature whilst becoming more consistent.'"
Great post that Jonh. As I have highlighted I think that Joel can tick all of those boxes.
Coming through the ranks I have seen Joel perform well at centre , stand off and loose forward and he is not bad with the ball in hand either. He is also a great defender.
I personally love the fact that he is a real big , rough handfull and he will only get better.
I would actually compare him to the young Adrian Morley when he played in the second row at Leeds. Big, rough, quick and can play a bit even if the aggression sometimes goes a bit overboard.
It makes me laugh when some of our supporters criticise him for his aggression when they are also crying out for a " enforcer prop". Why can we not have an " enforcer second row"?
I know he needs to cut out the odd crazy penalty but I think he is developing nicely.
If he keeps it up and turns out like Morley did he will do for me.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: Geoff "That's excellent news, and yes, he is!'"
Ryan King is a flying machine,as anyone (particularly the Bradford players) who was at the Carnegie nines will testify.
As Geoff says, superb news.
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44075_1339364158.jpg What's the rumpus, Tom?
[quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj]
[quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... [/quote:1dso5atj]
[quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd.
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Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm
To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg |
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22964_1381135683.jpg [color=#FF0000:3ohiykr5][b:3ohiykr5]Wigan Warriors - 2017 World Club Champions[/b:3ohiykr5][/color:3ohiykr5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_22964.jpg |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Ryan King is a flying machine,as anyone (particularly the Bradford players) who was at the Carnegie nines will testify.
As Geoff says, superb news.'"
Forgive my ignorance, but where does he play?
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| Quote: jameswk "Young Ryan King has just been given a new 3 year contract . one for the future i recon'"
The club must have a huge amount of faith in him giving him 3 years.
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| Quote: tugglesf78 "www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/eels-put-out-welcome-matt-for-orford/story-e6frexnr-1225928590534
Interesting comment on Piggy riddells future here. Acording to this no Aussie clubs are willing to sign him, so he may have to retire?
Cant beleive that.'"
Apparently his knees are shot to the point that he's unable to fully participate in training in the week. He's said himself that he's unsure about his own future and he's just focused on getting to and winning the GF with Wigan
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44075_1339364158.jpg What's the rumpus, Tom?
[quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj]
[quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... [/quote:1dso5atj]
[quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd.
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Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm
To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg |
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| Quote: dirtbag83 "Apparently his knees are shot to the point that he's unable to fully participate in training in the week. He's said himself that he's unsure about his own future and he's just focused on getting to and winning the GF with Wigan'"
If thats true then i genuinely feel sorry for him.
Hopfully he will have enough cash in the bank for a rainy day.
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