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Quote: 100% Warrior "For old times sake can I have me dad lift me over the turnstile?'"

The gang of four would have collectively hoisted you over back in the day. Things ain't what they used to be you know.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "For old times sake can I have me dad lift me over the turnstile?'"


My old man still hasn’t forgiven me for the time I was 5 and he told the guy on the turnstile at Central Park I was 4 and I started shouting he was lying and I was 5 icon_lol.gif

Bloke just said “you could kill kids, throw him over”.

Great days

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Quote: Grimmy "The gang of four would have collectively hoisted you over back in the day. Things ain't what they used to be you know.'"


Am discustard.

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Quote: NickyKiss "My old man still hasn’t forgiven me for the time I was 5 and he told the guy on the turnstile at Central Park I was 4 and I started shouting he was lying and I was 5
That’s tickled me that has. That’s a proper old grudge. My Dad still had it in for me for a while because at Wembley in 1998 I mis spelt Gary Connolly’s name on an old bed sheet, holding it proudly as the Wigan coach drove in and the look of utter bewilderment on Connollys face. He reckons I put him off icon_lol.gif

So 1998, I apologise. For context, I was barely 9 years old!

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Quote: 100% Warrior "That’s tickled me that has. That’s a proper old grudge. My Dad still had it in for me for a while because at Wembley in 1998 I mis spelt Gary Connolly’s name on an old bed sheet, holding it proudly as the Wigan coach drove in and the look of utter bewilderment on Connollys face. He reckons I put him off
He wheels it out a couple of times a year that one icon_lol.gif

Fair old nightmare that 98 final. We missed the train home to put a top hat on it.

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Is being sarcastic now part of the education system in Wigan.

or is just confined to those who think they are smart s?

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "Is being sarcastic now part of the education system in Wigan.

or is just confined to those who think they are smart s?'"


Both. Ian Lenaghan introduced it mate.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "Both. Ian Lenaghan introduced it mate.'"


No he didn't
The gang of 4 did

Uncle Mo started it with his "Theyre a lovely little club comment" and it started from there. One little throwaway comment like that and nearly 35 years later we all still at each other.
Jack Robinson joined in but went too far when he tried to sue the Wigan observer to try and fraud money for damages out of them for the non Neil Cowie transfer.
It was a joke phone call that got out of hand, you know "were selling Neil cowie to Leeds and its all off now because of your article so I want 100k off you" type thing.
He was being arcastic but then went through with it and before you know it everyone's in court all lawyered up. U mean, its not like we were drowning in debt etc at that point which ultimately led to the sale of central park etc that made him do it, honest (oops there i go with it now).
Sarcasm gone too far.

You would have thought Robinson would have learnt his lesson after the gene miles, Andy Gregory and John dorahay fiascos.

You know, thinking you can replace players/coaches with cheaper versions and still carry on winning.
Maybe thats where leneghan is going wrong?

Maybe he's listened to Ruddy Duck and thought yeah, let's do it like the gang of 4 did, replace great players with cheaper bargain buys? So maybe this is all Ruddy Ducks fault? eusa_think.gif

Oops, there i go again, sarcasm, or is it????

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Quote: Jukesays "No he didn't
The gang of 4 did

Uncle Mo started it with his "Theyre a lovely little club comment" and it started from there. One little throwaway comment like that and nearly 35 years later we all still at each other.
Jack Robinson joined in but went too far when he tried to sue the Wigan observer to try and fraud money for damages out of them for the non Neil Cowie transfer.
It was a joke phone call that got out of hand, you know "were selling Neil cowie to Leeds and its all off now because of your article so I want 100k off you" type thing.
He was being arcastic but then went through with it and before you know it everyone's in court all lawyered up. U mean, its not like we were drowning in debt etc at that point which ultimately led to the sale of central park etc that made him do it, honest (oops there i go with it now).
Sarcasm gone too far.

You would have thought Robinson would have learnt his lesson after the gene miles, Andy Gregory and John dorahay fiascos.

You know, thinking you can replace players/coaches with cheaper versions and still carry on winning.
Maybe thats where leneghan is going wrong?

Maybe he's listened to Ruddy Duck and thought yeah, let's do it like the gang of 4 did, replace great players with cheaper bargain buys? So maybe this is all Ruddy Ducks fault?

You missed out Whelan doing the same thing during his period of ownership while trying to make his beloved Latic's the biggest club in Wigan and the town of Wigan into a football town which included building a white elephant stadium with a too large a capacity of 25,000.

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Quote: afootingmiracle21-12 "Since the removal of restrictions we've seen a Friday night gate of 5.5k vs Wakefield and 9.2k (with a sizeable contingent of lobbys) for a Sunday fixture with Leigh.

I could understand this when restrictions were still in place, but i expected crowds to return to usual pre-pandemic levels once lifted, perhaps even above these as I thought there would be a lot of clamor to get back to the rugby. What i didn't expect was that crowds would still be roughly half of what they would be for similar fixtures pre-pandemic levels.

The last two attendances have been the smallest for Wigan RL fixtures in 25+ years, and are probably below even usual latics levels (will be interesting to see how they compare in a few weeks).

But I suppose my big question is, is this because people are still nervous of covid so a lot aren't attending (if so, it seems to contradict what we are seeing day to day life, where most folk are carrying on like covid has disappeared


Yes, the club and the game of Rugby League should be worried when the Latics can draw in a crowd of 10,000 plus for their opening home game with no excuses being made by their supporters that the size of the crowd being affected by Covid19/Indian Variant which has been the case with some of our supporters about our attendances.

More to do with financial the state of the club and the level of the game in general.

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Would we be the same as Latics if our club nearly went to the wall .We did when we thought we were going to be relegated .Football has a lot more publicity than RL its just come back off a European final with loads of hype.

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "Yes, the club and the game of Rugby League should be worried when the Latics can draw in a crowd of 10,000 plus for their opening home game with no excuses being made by their supporters that the size of the crowd being affected by Covid19/Indian Variant which has been the case with some of our supporters about our attendances.

More to do with financial the state of the club and the level of the game in general.'"


As a Latics fan myself I don’t think it was that great a crowd tbh. The clubs nearly gone to the wall and is being rebuilt and there’s an excitement from the fans to see what is pretty much a full new team. The first game back comes at a time where all restrictions on crowd sizes have been lifted, unlike the rugby where they couldn’t just make tickets a free for all to start with. In those circumstances I think 10,200 was solid but not much more. Let’s put it this way, had the rugby club faced the same set of circumstances, I think there would’ve been 15,000+ on.

Ultimately that crowd at Latics tells us nothing about our own attendances.

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It's a general Rugby League thing though.

Saints v Cas 7,020, Saints v Catalan 7,758, Leeds v Cas was sub 9,000, Wire v Wigan was 8,014, HKR v Wigan 6,230

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Quote: NickyKiss "As a Latics fan myself I don’t think it was that great a crowd tbh. The clubs nearly gone to the wall and is being rebuilt and there’s an excitement from the fans to see what is pretty much a full new team. The first game back comes at a time where all restrictions on crowd sizes have been lifted, unlike the rugby where they couldn’t just make tickets a free for all to start with. In those circumstances I think 10,200 was solid but not much more. Let’s put it this way, had the rugby club faced the same set of circumstances, I think there would’ve been 15,000+ on.

Ultimately that crowd at Latics tells us nothing about our own attendances.'"


I’m a season ticket holder for both, significant every time I go to each game is the number of kids at Latics games which is phenomenal. 10,000 ish home support with a huge chunk under 16 in the third tier of English football is future-proofing the club (ownership permitting again obviously!). The general malaise in RL will stop a fair few from coming to games but I don’t see 15,000 home fans coming for a long time. Happy to be wrong though.

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Quote: DannyT "I’m a season ticket holder for both, significant every time I go to each game is the number of kids at Latics games which is phenomenal. 10,000 ish home support with a huge chunk under 16 in the third tier of English football is future-proofing the club (ownership permitting again obviously!). The general malaise in RL will stop a fair few from coming to games but I don’t see 15,000 home fans coming for a long time. Happy to be wrong though.'"


Nor me but my 15,000 comment is based on us having the same circumstances as Latics. Hopefully we won’t but say we go in to administration, lose all our players, including our best kids, come within weeks of going to the wall, have no fans in the ground for 18 months at all, get bought out by new owners, buy a whole new team and have an opportunity in our first game back at home to sell as many tickets as we want and do I think we get 15,000+ on? Without any shadow of a doubt IMO.

I sit in the south stand for the rugby and the east stand for the football, so to me it feels like there are more kids at the rugby (certainly the last two games) but that’s because the South Stand us the family stand for the football and pretty much for the rugby. It was a fair crowd at Latics yesterday but not much more than that. I’d have hoped for 13-14,000 after the circumstances of the last 18 months.

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