You're missing my point. I never mentioned the word scapegoat nor was that what i was illuding to. This year, pretty much everytime he has played there has been a thread about why he shouldn't be playing for wigan. Same last year about Roberts and Mathers, same about Richards in his first year.

KP did not lose us that game. Maybe he could have done better when Robinson took his try, but that's also like blaming the keeper when the other 10 wendyballers allowed a striker through on goal.
IMO Pat came inside twice to allow Hudds to attack down our left, because Joel was in the centre position.
We don't like to blame injuries for our defeats, but having Marsh (on loan at a poor Div 1 team, playing out of his favoured position) and JT at left centre because DG, GC and MG are all out, must have contributed to a lack of confidence or communication out wide.

I think we are being a bit over critical here. Pryce didnt have his best game ive seen this season but he wasnt exactly shocking. Theres no need to look for reasons for losing or a scapegoat because we just bombed it as a team full stop imo. If we played the same 80 mins out again tomorrow we would win at a canter imo. Lets just be greatful weve got breathing space and time to sort ourselves out for the playoffs.

I wouldnt mind taking Mason and his bitches to the cleaners in the playoffs though

In regards to the last three posts, I can't any posts in this thread that suggests he was shocking, to blame for the loss or being used a scapegoat.

The point of the thread is how he performed on Sunday in general and his future at Wigan.

I quite enjoy reading the Karl Pryce threads because almost all of them have been interesting with people having quite different views on him.

No matter what you think about Pryce i find it really refreshing that he has at the very least been given a chance by Maguire even when a lot of supporters had all but given up on him.

I can't help but feel that the player will feel grateful that he has been given opportunities to prove himself at Wigan whilst also putting himself in the shop window should another club be interested in offering him a contract should Wigan not wish to keep him.

As for his long term future, i would not be unhappy if he was retained based on his performances this season.

Pryce wasnt the worst got a good try made a few mistakes i dont think he is a bad player tbh theres alot worse and correct me if im wrong but has he ever played this season and not scored?

Is it just me or does anyone else think KP tends to go out of the game in the last 20 mins, may be its fitness maybe short concentration span, but it happens every time he plays

He's still definitely not fit, that's for sure.

I to am still 50/50 reagarding Pryce, he doesn't do anything flash but if people bang on about Ainscough's try scoring record then why can't we praise Pryce's record? Sure he isn't the quickest of players but he's very difficult to stop within try scoring range. He definitely has some advantages to his game but as other players have he also has disadvantages to his game. I'm happy for him to be a squad player at the right price although ideally he wouldn't be in the starting 17 unless there's injuries.

How on earth can Pryce be match fit?
He has been 18th man for a number of games so he hasn't played either first team or U20s. Then they ask him to do 80 mins and fans expect him to be the sharpest knife in the kitchen.
I'd like to see him play the rest of the season outside Gleeson when he returns. He won't score any fewer tries than Daz Goulding.
He's not been great but not been disatrously poor either.
Pity he can't get a consistent number of games where he starts. He may then show an improvement on his current performances.

Pryce has made 19 starts this season for the first and U20s teams - do you want to try to think up another excuse?

Pryce seems to come in for a lot of stick for not making enough metres taking the ball in. There's definitely evidence of this from the Huddersfield game and overall compared to our other backs.
He may also be lacking pace, but he's nowhere near as terrible as some people make out.
His work rate doesn't quite match our other backs consistently but it is improving. I think he's better suited to be a centre, but it would require a lot of work on Pryce's part to prove he can make a name for himself there.

Playing 19 consecutive starts for the first team would most certainly give a truer measure of his ability, performance and worth.

Playing one week for the U20s then another for the first team followed by not playing for either is hardly the way to get the best out of any player whether its Pryce or anyone else.

True, but why should any player be given so long to prove himself, when others are doing it in far less games? Would you apply the same argument to, say, Ainscough?

I think we already have "a true measure of his ability, performance and worth".

What are you seriously expecting to see that hasn't been seen already? 19 starts over a season is plenty enough to be up to speed with the game and match fit. He's made 9 starts in the first team out of those 19. Plenty to see what he offers.

He could play in every single first team game, but that won't sort out his major shortcoming for me, which is a lack of heart.