Serious questions for you as you seem intent on giving your opinion on this. Do you honestly think that a fractionally late tackle (not high or swinging arm or anything like that, just fractionally late) is worthy of a 2 month ban? Also, do you honestly believe that the appropriate response to a coach not getting what he wants is to tell his players to go out and take matters into their own hands? Seriously....

Brown is a idiot

Cant wait to see his tough guys teaching SL a lesson.

no what you are doing is trying to pretend that O'loughlins actions were purely accidental and a result of a mis-timed challenge and not a result of training and tactics that see it worth risking a penalty to throw yourself at a playmaker whether you are late or not. I just dont see a huge difference to a deliberate action hurting someone and a deliberately reckless action doing it.

Im not saying O'loughlin hit him late on purpose, im saying he didnt care if he hit him late. I dont see either as something to defend. If we allow leeway for actions like O'loughlins we allow leeway for any reasonable retribtution, anything else is simply hypocritical.

Its like you are defending O'loughlin because what he did was sly and that it is somehow worse to be up front about it

The public aspect smacks of pressuring the RFL to do something about it. and you're right, it doesnt show the game in a great light but neither do these late challenges we see all the time

But sending players to mete out justice does? Now which is it?

I'd hardly say Mick Potter was " Shown up" by him to be honest. You only beat us by 8 points. Unless you are classing a defeat as being shown up, in which case Maguire has been " Shown up" by the much Maligned duo of Brian Mcdermott and Steve Mcnamara!

either we allow both to go (virtually) unpunished or we stamp them both out! We do one or the other,what we dont do is allow what O'loughlin to do go free then complain when there is a little retribution and intimidation.

I would say no and no. However I am not Nathan Brown, and didnt see the challenge on Luke Robinson. None of know what goes on behind closed doors in team talks or training sessions!.

I was making a point about what Tony Smith and his comments about banning players.

It was his after match comments that got him added to the list, nothing to do with the win

Entirely wrong.

You're making the assumption that O'Loughlin was 'deliberately reckless'. Please prove that point. (and please don't come back with some "it happens all the time" or "It's my opinion" junk!)

In the second instance we [uknow[/u it to be deliberate as Brown himself has confirmed it.

You getting this yet?

You then go on to admit that you don't in fact think or at least can't say that O'Loughlin did this on purpose (and in fact he has no real history of this tactic anyway even if that's what you wanted to try to intimate!).

In the second instance we [uknow[/u it to be deliberate as Brown himself has confirmed it.


We there yet?

Then you say "Its like you are defending O'loughlin because what he did was sly and that it is somehow worse to be up front about it". Well let's start with the fact that no-one is defending O'Loughlin "because it was sly". In fact I doubt there'd be any takers for that particular defence. Rather, we are saying it was an "honest error in timing due to a commited attempt to put pressure on the opposition player and prevent him getting the kick/pass away effectively". You remember that don't you? It's called playing the game. If you're response to that is that sending players out to exact revenge is the same thing then, mate, you aren't naive, your a fool.

O'Loughlin didn't go unpunished. A penalty was awarded against him which was entirely the correct decision. Have a look at the rules if you have any further points that need clearing up!

I agree the other incident went unpunished.

OK. Fair enough!