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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: jonh "Fox is a very good winger in Sl standards, Briscoe is a key player for KR.
As i said though a team over achieving has a bad night a team underachieving has one of the rare odd nights.
In the next few weeks it will return to form. Quins will get drubbed and put in a shocking run, KR will snap out of it and get back on form.
All teams apart from Wigan of late have a bad spell of a few weeks. Sadly Wigan have a good spell of a few weeks a season and it is suddenly deemed acceptable.'"
The season will only be deemed acceptable if we reach a final IMO.
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| Quote: odemwingie "The season will only be deemed acceptable if we reach a final IMO.'"
Personally i think we need to reach at the very least the elimination semi.
The cup is all about the luck of the draw, we could very well get to Wembley off the back of no real quality performances, to win it we would have to perform though granted.
We have to ruffle Leeds or Saints feathers and finish in the top 4 in my opinion for this season to be deemed acceptable.
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| Quote: jonh "Fox is a very good winger in Sl standards, Briscoe is a key player for KR.
As i said though a team over achieving has a bad night a team underachieving has one of the rare odd nights.
In the next few weeks it will return to form. Quins will get drubbed and put in a shocking run, KR will snap out of it and get back on form.
All teams apart from Wigan of late have a bad spell of a few weeks. Sadly Wigan have a good spell of a few weeks a season and it is suddenly deemed acceptable.'"
Depends when that is.
If it is early on then no it's not.
If it is in the playoffs then it is.
As I have said umpteen times, you play the hand you are dealt.
Those are the rules, we have to play to them.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: jonh "Personally i think we need to reach at the very least the elimination semi.
The cup is all about the luck of the draw, we could very well get to Wembley off the back of no real quality performances, to win it we would have to perform though granted.
We have to ruffle Leeds or Saints feathers and finish in the top 4 in my opinion for this season to be deemed acceptable.'"
Agreed.
But we've done Saints once and in truth should have beat them at Wigan.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: jonh "Personally i think we need to reach at the very least the elimination semi.
The cup is all about the luck of the draw, we could very well get to Wembley off the back of no real quality performances, to win it we would have to perform though granted.
We have to ruffle Leeds or Saints feathers and finish in the top 4 in my opinion for this season to be deemed acceptable.'"
Would you not be happy getting to wembely (win or lose) and finish 8th and get to the elimination semi.
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| Quote: jonh "Personally i think we need to reach at the very least the elimination semi.
The cup is all about the luck of the draw, we could very well get to Wembley off the back of no real quality performances, to win it we would have to perform though granted.
We have to ruffle Leeds or Saints feathers and finish in the top 4 in my opinion for this season to be deemed acceptable.'"
You mean like in the last few seasons?
Yet still you bleat on about Nobby.
Make your mind up!
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "
Once more BK you ignore the body of the thread.
Firstly is acceptable enough to earn a new deal? Not for me.
Have we looked anywhere near worrying Leeds or Saints in the major games in the last few years?
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Agreed.
But we've done Saints once and in truth should have beat them at Wigan.'"
I still cannot beleive we did not win that game. We outplayed them in so many areas, I think it came down to a few decisions.
To beat saints for once was great though.
I think the line between success and failure this season is alot thinner than people think. All the games we have lost this season we have lost by 14 points or less other than Leeds, games against Hudds, Hull, Cas, Wakey, Hull KR were all close games and with a little more composure we could of won those games and been saying we are challenging for the title playing poorly. The line is alot thinner than people think, although granted we have not played well. Our style of rugby at times has been second only to Cas and Saints.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: jonh "Once more BK you ignore the body of the thread.
Firstly is acceptable enough to earn a new deal? Not for me.
Have we looked anywhere near worrying Leeds or Saints in the major games in the last few years?'"
We beat Saints at Murrayfield, and we were close to Leeds in last years semi.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Agreed.
But we've done Saints once and in truth should have beat them at Wigan.'"
But not when it counts. We consistentlyt fall short on the big occasion, when it comes to the business end of the season BN prides himself on.
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| Quote: jonh "Once more BK you ignore the body of the thread.
Firstly is acceptable enough to earn a new deal? Not for me.
Have we looked anywhere near worrying Leeds or Saints in the major games in the last few years?'"
Well actually I was doing you a favour by not pointing out the inconsistencies in your post.
However now you mention it.
Which is it to be?
Elmination semi or top 4?
or " ruffling Stains/Leeds feathers?"
Hopeless post as is your wont.
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| Quote: odemwingie "We beat Saints at Murrayfield, and we were close to Leeds in last years semi.'"
We did beat Saints but can we do it when it counts? Leeds destroyed us in the semi last year, never looked in doubt despite the effort. The way Leeds played the week after showed just how comfortable the semi was for them.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: odemwingie "I still cannot beleive we did not win that game. We outplayed them in so many areas, I think it came down to a few decisions.
To beat saints for once was great though.
I think the line between success and failure this season is alot thinner than people think. All the games we have lost this season we have lost by 14 points or less other than Leeds, games against Hudds, Hull, Cas, Wakey, Hull KR were all close games and with a little more composure we could of won those games and been saying we are challenging for the title playing poorly. The line is alot thinner than people think, although granted we have not played well. Our style of rugby at times has been second only to Cas and Saints.'"
And that is the dilemma.
Me and our mob have deliberated for hours and sunk gallons discussing it. Is it the coach, is it "mental toughness", is it "a leader", is it us and the pressure we put on the "team"
The truth is IMO it's a combination, but I do believe it's a confidence thing, and if we can string a few wins together we are capable of beating any of the teams.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg |
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| Quote: jonh "We did beat Saints but can we do it when it counts? Leeds destroyed us in the semi last year, never looked in doubt despite the effort. The way Leeds played the week after showed just how comfortable the semi was for them.'"
We were in the game though. We will see if we can do it when it counts in the challenge cup final against saints
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Well actually I was doing you a favour by not pointing out the inconsistencies in your post.
However now you mention it.
Which is it to be?
Elmination semi or top 4?
or " ruffling Stains/Leeds feathers?"
Hopeless post as is your wont.'"
All of the above.
There is no point getting to the elimination semi and making up the numbers as we have in the past.
There is no point playing poor all year and having a 2/3 game run and claiming the season to be a success. We have to catch up to Leeds or Saints and step up to the mark when it counts. As you continue to whinge about the cap and lowering standards, Wigan have continued to sink and are no closer to the real teams capable of winning the silver come the end of the year.
The Challenge Cup final has already been played, but given the nature of the cup teams like Hudds, Quins and Les Cats can make a final, not often does it go right after that point though sadly.
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