FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Legal Status JJB
78 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1029
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Fish/PDT_Fish_34.gif
:Fish/PDT_Fish_34.gif



Cant believe the Stadium has been open nearly 10 years and have not had a formal Board meeting.???????????

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15775
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16032_1698179828.jpg
"[color=#800080:2tf4iz4f]BOHICA[/color:2tf4iz4f]":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16032.jpg



Quote: jaws1 "Cant believe the Stadium has been open nearly 10 years and have not had a formal Board meeting.???????????'"


Whelans in charge

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member9982No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2015Aug 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4486_1428087820.png
Newsnight 13th May 2010: "With the role of Deputy Prime Minister a non-job. Has Nick Clegg gone from King Maker to tea maker????" I kept the faith and I kept voting Not for the iron fist but for the helping hand For theirs is a land with a wall around it And mine is a faith in my fellow man Theirs is a land of hope and glory Mine is the green field and the factory floor Theirs are the skies all dark with bombers And mine is the peace we knew Between the wars:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4486.png



Quote: [Gareth] ""Whelans in charge'"
One of the things we should be working on, and I will be working on, will be to get Council involved in forcing Whelan to have regular board meetings. They - and therefore WE own 15% of the Company!

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach5226No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Dec 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/HAFLING2.JPG
BANG THE DRUM.............BARMY ARMY:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/HAFLING2.JPG



the bit about the chairman not calling any board meetings stinks.
DW may as well change his name to ADOLF

surely there is something in the company minutes to have a plan of regular board meetings??
one man taking all the decisions for a board is nothing short of dictatorship.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach5226No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Dec 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/HAFLING2.JPG
BANG THE DRUM.............BARMY ARMY:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/HAFLING2.JPG



nowt do with topic.....but im glad whelans not the prime minister, otherwise i fancy he would abolish democracy icon_cry.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach6124No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10174_1376908073.png
23 - 20 - 4 Warrington led 16-2 in Saturday's Grand Final, but their joy was short-lived as Wigan roared back to win the Super League title and extend the Wire's 58-year wait to be champions:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10174.png



Quote: wigan pie man "the bit about the chairman not calling any board meetings stinks.
DW may as well change his name to ADOLF

surely there is something in the company minutes to have a plan of regular board meetings??
one man taking all the decisions for a board is nothing short of dictatorship.'"



Majority shareholders can do whatever the fook they like

AJ
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman12903No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2021Aug 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1530.gif
:1530.gif



Quote: Orrell Lad "Majority shareholders can do whatever the fook they like'"


And that is the crux of this issue that won't be solved anytime soon, perhaps not even when he is no longer with us.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner6722No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2015Mar 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

The Communist Cap - dragging down success and aspiration to the levels of those who cba.:



Quote: jaws1 "I asked Brian Simpson MEP Wigan a few questions regarding the JJB stadium and these are the answers from the Chief Exec at Wigan Council


These are the true facts of the JJB from planning stage to ownership
The Council owns the land The Council granted a 99 year lease to Wigan Football Company LTD(Trading as the JJB stadium)for the use of the at Robin Park comprising the JJB Stadium and Surrounds from the 4th August 1999.The lease remains in place and specifies that the Stadium be made available for all the home fixtures of Wigan Athletic Football Club LTD and Wigan Football Club(Wigan Warriors)
Who owns the Stadium
85%of the shares of Wigan Football Company LTD are owned by Whelco Holdings [a company controlled by Dave whelan and his family]and 15%by the Council. The Council has the wright to to appoint a Director-currently David Smith,executive Director of Business Support Services,although the Chairman of the Board Mr Whelan has yet to call a formal meeting of the directors and takes all the key decisions
Two 25 year licenses were granted by Wigan Football Company LTD to Wigan Athletic FC and to Wigan Football Club LTD.Both clubs are recquired to work with their respective governing bodies to ensure that there is no clash of fixtures.The agreement with the clubs provides that "The Company [ie the stadium company ]shall be entitled in its absolute discretion in the event of a conflict of fixtures whether the Club shall be entitled to use the Stadium on any particular day"
Planning application
The planning permission was granted for a 25.000 seater stadium ,carparks and ancillary features.There are no specific conditions in the grant of the planning application that refer to dual use.In the committe report reference is made to to then plan to bring OrrellRUFC and Wigan Athletic to the new stadium .Subsequently plans changed ,but this did not require a revised planning application.
Public access to planning application
The application was conducted in Public
Debates for commercial parts of the transaction were held in private ,but the minutes recording of the decisions were made public.District Audit [the councils external auditors ]and the Valuation Office Agency were involved in independently scrutinising and verifing financial and valuation aspects of the transactions.
How was the Stadium funded
Whelco Holdings provided the initial £25.5 milion to construct the Stadium and Whelco has provided a further £6 million in loan capitol to undertake further works suach as the hospitality facilities in the North,East and South stands .English partnership provided grant funding of some £990.000 to relocate the storm water tanks located under what what is now the East Stand of the stadium to their present position between the canal and the River Douglas .No Council money was provided.'"




Firstly Jaws u really need to get a spell checker m8. Great piece of information nearly let down by that.

It seems to me as though the original contract was drafted by idiots though.

If the Council granted the lease on condition that both Wigan RL and Wigan Athletic could play their home games there, then surely Whelan has broken that covenant with his recent actions?


Secondly if the Company (i.e. Whelan) has the ability to decide :

a. If a "conflict" is taking place
b. What the result of that conflict should be

(as seems the case)

Then I can't see how that is compatible with the grant of the Lease by the council.


I know Wigan council is probably one of the worst in the country, but even by their standards, this seems a mess.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member9982No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2015Aug 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4486_1428087820.png
Newsnight 13th May 2010: "With the role of Deputy Prime Minister a non-job. Has Nick Clegg gone from King Maker to tea maker????" I kept the faith and I kept voting Not for the iron fist but for the helping hand For theirs is a land with a wall around it And mine is a faith in my fellow man Theirs is a land of hope and glory Mine is the green field and the factory floor Theirs are the skies all dark with bombers And mine is the peace we knew Between the wars:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4486.png



Quote: XBrettKennyX "Firstly Jaws u really need to get a spell checker m8. Great piece of information nearly let down by that.

It seems to me as though the original contract was drafted by idiots though.

If the Council granted the lease on condition that both Wigan RL and Wigan Athletic could play their home games there, then surely Whelan has broken that covenant with his recent actions?


Secondly if the Company (i.e. Whelan) has the ability to decide

Agreed. I have asked for a copy of the lease, so lets see how it was worded.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach224No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2017Apr 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Perhaps Whelan and the council have agreed to some details of the lease being "evolved" over the years?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2473No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9357_1623419489.png
[img]https://i.imgur.com/yQKRyyP.jpg[/img]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9357.png



It doesnt seem clear if whelco is able to resolve fixture 'conflicts' within a number of days of each other or just on the same day

We need to know this as thta is the key bit of info.

For all we know when whelan sold the club he could of added more conditions to the clubs contracts to give latics more space around their matches

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member582No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2012May 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons077e_files/4865-863FALH-msnicons.jpg
:icons077e_files/4865-863FALH-msnicons.jpg



The council are under the impression that its matchday conflict. I read that as on the same day.

Do we have legal people on here? I am sure that we do.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member6626No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2011Mar 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4427.jpg
[img:15ee9732]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/Vicki_w/gregosig.jpg[/img:15ee9732] "Steve Ganson's equipment is hanging out of the back of his shorts":4427.jpg



Quote: Looby Loony Lou "The council are under the impression that its matchday conflict. I read that as on the same day.

Do we have legal people on here? I am sure that we do.'"

Yes, but unfortunately I know feck all about the intricacies of this development or how a 'matchday conflict' might be defined! icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach806No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2011Aug 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I've heard rumour that the JJB Stadium is losing a lot of money, being employed there, well it's not the most comforting thing to hear. Although it's no surprise as a lot of items are being wasted and the place is heavily overstaffed, ie two people doing the job of one person.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach413No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2015Sep 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/PDT13.gif
75-0 Gets you Nothing. 27-0 Gets you a trophy. 18-10 Gets you eternal bragging rights!:simpsons/PDT13.gif



Quote: Donna "Agreed. I have asked for a copy of the lease, so lets see how it was worded.'"


So how was it worded?

(I'm assuming the copy has arrived by now)

78 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
78 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.3466796875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Round 26 Wigan Away
Once were Lo
144
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
17s
Recruitment rumours and links
Alffi_7
3058
28s
East stand
PopTart
12
35s
Off Contract 2025
ploinerrhino
15
38s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Jack Burton
2325
43s
Film game
Boss Hog
3702
44s
Rumours thread
Shifty Cat
2200
48s
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
BP1
23
52s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Jack Burton
9892
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Cuddleclub
5091
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62445
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Saints
Cokey
1
TODAY
Round 27 HKR Away
FlyingScotty
5
TODAY
Squad for London
just_browny
15
TODAY
Hull FC preview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
Halifax A
Wigan Bull
4
TODAY
East stand
PopTart
12
TODAY
Locations of League
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
Matt Parcell to leave at seasons end
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Huddersfiels to get new stadium
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
IMG
Fantastic Mr
2
TODAY
Leaving players
Murphy
1
TODAY
bulls on Sunday
Hudd-Shay
11
TODAY
Concerts at Stadiums
Fantastic Mr
11
TODAY
Finn out Murrell in
Ilkley Fax
9
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
MattyB
3
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Wigan Bull
11
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
36
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
BP1
23
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
the cal trai
31
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
FoxyRhino
16
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside York Knights Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Old FC when we knew how to play rugby
mk_fc
5
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
karetaker
7
TODAY
Dons v Widnes - Sunday 15 September 2024
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
Catalans Keep Season Alive With Victory Over The Broncos
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
728
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
536
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
520
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
584
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
988
Salford Close In On The Play O..
948
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1072
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1027
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1071
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1451
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1387
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1474
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1460
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1656
Five Into Three - Our Top Six ..
2225
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.63M 2,819 80,12014,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 TOMORROW
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Cronulla
v
NQL Cowboys
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
 Sat 21st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Sydney
v
Manly
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
15:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
       League One 2024-R24
15:00
Hunslet
v
Midlands
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
 Sat 28th Sep
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 19th Sep
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
SL
20:00
Wigan-Salford
Fri 20th Sep
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Leeds
SL
20:00
Leigh-St.Helens
SL
20:00
Warrington-LondonB
Sat 21st Sep
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Catalans
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 15th Sep
WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
WSL2024 14 Hudds W36-0Wire W
CH 26 Barrow34-14Whitehaven
CH 26 Bradford16-14Batley
CH 26 Dewsbury16-28Swinton
CH 26 Doncaster30-14Widnes
CH 26 Featherstone6-20Sheffield
CH 26 Wakefield20-4York
NRL 28 Canterbury22-24Manly
L1 23 Midlands24-22Workington
L1 23 Rochdale30-18Hunslet
Sat 14th Sep
SL 26 Hull FC4-58Salford
SL 26 Catalans12-8LondonB
SL 26 Huddersfield0-66Warrington
CH 26 Toulouse38-18Halifax
NRL 28 Melbourne37-10Cronulla
NRL 28 NQL Cowboys28-16Newcastle
Fri 13th Sep
SL 26 Leigh0-24Hull KR
SL 26 St.Helens40-4Castleford
SL 26 Wigan38-0Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 26 657 336 321 42
Hull KR 26 693 311 382 40
Warrington 26 684 319 365 38
Salford 26 550 483 67 32
St.Helens 26 584 370 214 30
Leigh 26 548 386 162 29
 
Leeds 26 514 462 52 28
Catalans 26 451 423 28 28
Huddersfield 26 434 648 -214 18
Castleford 26 415 701 -286 15
LondonB 26 317 862 -545 6
Hull FC 26 324 870 -546 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 24 892 256 636 46
Bradford 24 618 373 245 32
Toulouse 23 662 340 322 31
Sheffield 24 594 472 122 28
Widnes 24 513 433 80 27
York 25 613 439 174 26
 
Featherstone 24 566 472 94 26
Doncaster 24 470 527 -57 23
Batley 24 378 513 -135 20
Halifax 24 475 617 -142 20
Barrow 23 418 648 -230 19
Swinton 24 446 606 -160 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 25 308 821 -513 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Round 26 Wigan Away
Once were Lo
144
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
17s
Recruitment rumours and links
Alffi_7
3058
28s
East stand
PopTart
12
35s
Off Contract 2025
ploinerrhino
15
38s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Jack Burton
2325
43s
Film game
Boss Hog
3702
44s
Rumours thread
Shifty Cat
2200
48s
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
BP1
23
52s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Jack Burton
9892
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Cuddleclub
5091
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62445
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Saints
Cokey
1
TODAY
Round 27 HKR Away
FlyingScotty
5
TODAY
Squad for London
just_browny
15
TODAY
Hull FC preview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
Halifax A
Wigan Bull
4
TODAY
East stand
PopTart
12
TODAY
Locations of League
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
Matt Parcell to leave at seasons end
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Huddersfiels to get new stadium
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
IMG
Fantastic Mr
2
TODAY
Leaving players
Murphy
1
TODAY
bulls on Sunday
Hudd-Shay
11
TODAY
Concerts at Stadiums
Fantastic Mr
11
TODAY
Finn out Murrell in
Ilkley Fax
9
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
MattyB
3
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Wigan Bull
11
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
36
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
BP1
23
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
the cal trai
31
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
FoxyRhino
16
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside York Knights Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Old FC when we knew how to play rugby
mk_fc
5
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
karetaker
7
TODAY
Dons v Widnes - Sunday 15 September 2024
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
Catalans Keep Season Alive With Victory Over The Broncos
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
728
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
536
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
520
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
584
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
988
Salford Close In On The Play O..
948
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1072
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1027
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1071
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1451
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1387
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1474
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1460
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1656
Five Into Three - Our Top Six ..
2225


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!