Which higher level do you want to play at ?
And as an advocate of promotion and relegation, I have no problem with playing at a lower level as long as is not a forced or biased situation.
I presume that you want to be in a 2 team league, where you play Saints every week as long as you win.

I don't personally think Sam's appearance did us any good or any harm. I'd still rather it hadn't happened, but some things provide benefits which the club can't shout about, so I'm not going to get steamed up about it.

But the idea of a Wakefield fan criticising Wigan for anything is completely laughable.

All the problems in the current game are personified by the likes of Wakefield, who shouldn't even be in Super League, yet who somehow, miraculously, still are.

If anyone wants to know why RL is regarded in Britain as a poor man's sport run by semi-amateurs with no drive or ambition other than to keep eking out a meagre survival on the scraps from other people's tables, they need look no further than one of our current 'top clubs' - Wakefield.

A bit O/T but in relation to Wrencat's comments. Latest status re their new ground is "outline approval/on hold".

DING DONG.

Totally corrcet Wakefield and other small minded clubs not only keeps the cap at a ridiculously low level but have a ground that is so under developed i have seen better stadiums in the Welsh Amateur football league 10 years ago. If Wakey have not started any redevelopment of the ground which brings is up to SL criteria standard then they must leave SL and make way for a side that has ambition. Why should others bother if they get away with it. Tradition counts fore nothing ask Notts County in football.

SL = no ambition
Wakey = no ambition

But all clubs have to stay at their level and that is wrong.

What development has happened on your ground Cas has managed it, Salford, Saints. Leeds are developing headingley nad have been for a while, what makes you so special that you can not meet SL criteria. I can promise to decorate my house or move but means nothing unless something is actually done. Hull has a good ground. I am not arrogant and dismissive towards other clubs but i am towards a club that is holding back the game and keeping the Amateur game alive and well in Super League.

I am certainly dismissive of a Wakefield fan who thinks the biggest problem facing the game is Sam Tomkins guesting, during our off-season, in an RU friendly.

Let's be clear about this: I am very unhappy about Sam playing for the Barbarians, it isn't good for RL or the Wigan club, but the intervention from the Wakefield fan certainly has put things in perspective.

Wakefield to my mind now personify pretty much everything that is wrong with professional RL. The lack of investment and lack of ambition shown by them and others in SL is what ultimately will be the undoing of our sport as a professional game, not RU.

If RL continues the downward spiral on on player pay in real terms (by keeping the SC at the same figure) then RU will be the least of our worries, in 20 years time RL as a professional sport in Britain will not exist in the form it does today. It will be more like the French domestic RL championship.

Sadly I think that dismal future actually appeals to some of the "level playing field" nutters at the smaller clubs.

just checking in and not much seems to have changed apart from my pov re wakey being backed up...

happy days

Utter garbage. How exactly will you be stronger?

You will still be an awful club, with no ambition, a rubbish stadium and rubbish youth development, if about 80% of fans had there way, you would be long gone out of this league.

Sam is the only RL player to receive any votes for this years SPOTY awards, he got 3 votes but didnt make the shortlist. 3 golfers, 2 cricketers, 2 from athletics, a cyclist, a boxer and a tennis player make-up the 10 man shortlist. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_ ... 920702.stm news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_ ... 895642.stm

Sam is the only RL player to receive any votes for this years SPOTY awards, he got 3 votes but didnt make the shortlist. 3 golfers, 2 cricketers, 2 from athletics, a cyclist, a boxer and a tennis player make-up the 10 man shortlist. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_ ... 920702.stm news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_ ... 895642.stm

I dont undertand why there is so much "hassle" for you to develop your ground? I support a football team called Crewe in League 2 of the football league. They overhauled one of their stands a few years back and it took them only 12 months from idea to completion! I realise that is only one stand but why can such a low down football team manage to do that but a supposedly top tier RL side be incapable? I agree completely with the sentiments that you are holding back SL. I actually tried to stick up for you on your own board last year and wished you all the best in attempting to get your new stadium off the ground and was attacked with a load of self righteous bile just because I was a Wigan fan tbh it was to the level which makes Leeds fans look humble and it wasn't by 1 it was by multiple fans. I no longer have time for your team holding back our League and would rather see the league drop to 10 teams and expand slowly over 10-20 years than see you, and to some small extent but nowhere near the level of you at the minute, castleford hold us back for the next 3 years.

The sport is run democratically by the RFL with member clubs each receiving votes on how the game is governed.
Even our humble little club doesn't agree with everything, however, we abide by the decisions that are made by the majority.
10 clubs in the league, would mean playing each other 3 times, plus cup matches and play off games, I know that this happens to some extent with the magic weekend, but there is a limit to just how many times that clubs wish to play each other.
As stated in previous posts, I have no issue with your club, but it seems that anyone that doesnt share your opinion isn't entitled to an opinion ??
Therefore, I will bid you farewell and leave you to your collective back slapping and bullying