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| Compare Coley to people like Skerret, Platt, Cowie, Craig Smith, O'connor and he's pretty awful.
Accepting players like Coley is nothing more than embracing mediocrity, we'll never win a trophy if that's the standard of player we are willing to accept.
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| Quote: Father Ted "I agree with Hoofer.
At Bradford, Fielden was part of the awesome foursome with Vagana, Anderson & McDermott. When McDermott retired they moved Peacock to Prop.
That's a front row we can only dream of.
Fielden's OK, Feka can do enormous damage, Coley isn't at the races and O'Carroll gives 100% but is nowhere near a starting prop. He may well be another Danny Nutley or Andrew Gee but not for another 4-5 years yet.
If rumours were anything like right Richard Moore was to be our fourth experienced prop and if he'd arrived then Coley would have been replaced making a good four. Right now there's no Moore and Coley still isn't doing it.
Fielden and Feka are the only two the opposition have to look out for. Hence the reason we don't often win the battle up front!'"
Exactly.
The need for another prop next year is massive and he has to be a very good one. Andy Lynch would be my top target and him starting alongside Fielden would be superb with Feka and O'Carroll/Prescott coming from the bench.
As for this year i think Prescott warrents a game on Friday. He's meant to have been going great in the reserves and i'd possibly look at putting him in ahead of O'Carroll. Eamon has been great so far this year but we don't need to rush him and a rest would do him no harm. I'd be loathed to drop Coley this week as surely a game against his ex team will fire him up(abit).
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| Quote: NickyKiss "
As for this year i think Prescott warrents a game on Friday. He's meant to have been going great in the reserves and i'd possibly look at putting him in ahead of O'Carroll. Eamon has been great so far this year but we don't need to rush him and a rest would do him no harm. I'd be loathed to drop Coley this week as surely a game against his ex team will fire him up(abit).'"
We need to get the balance of using Prescott and O'Carrol right for the next couple of seasons
Any suggestions to the best way of doing this?
All I can think of is rotating them every 3 games or so (fitness permitting)
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: ChrisA "Compare Coley to people like Skerret, Platt, Cowie, Craig Smith, O'connor and he's pretty awful.
Accepting players like Coley is nothing more than embracing mediocrity, we'll never win a trophy if that's the standard of player we are willing to accept.'"
But Carmont is no Bell, Miles, Inga etc.
Ainscough is no Offiah, Boston, Gill etc
Toomy L is no Greg, Edwards etc
Sam is no Barrett, Botica, Bolton etc
IMO Coley has played reasonably well in his last two games and deserves his place.
I'm not his biggest fan and think he'll be moved on at the end of the season.
I really like O'Carroll but think he'll be the one to miss out for Prescott on Friday.
We're very fortunate to have two good young props who we can rotate.
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| Quote: kirkamania6 "We need to get the balance of using Prescott and O'Carrol right for the next couple of seasons
Any suggestions to the best way of doing this?
All I can think of is rotating them every 3 games or so (fitness permitting)'"
I think you just rotate them as and when you see fit really.
It's hard to say lets do it on a regular 3 game basis because of issues with form and fitness. O'Carroll has gone really well at the start of this year but after a hard physical game against a good Leeds pack on Friday maybe now is the time to give the guy a rest. Prescott deserves a shot after his form in the reserves.
I think the long term goal has to be to get both in the 17 on a regular basis but that may be a few seasons down the track.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I think you just rotate them as and when you see fit really.
It's hard to say lets do it on a regular 3 game basis because of issues with form and fitness. O'Carroll has gone really well at the start of this year but after a hard physical game against a good Leeds pack on Friday maybe now is the time to give the guy a rest. Prescott deserves a shot after his form in the reserves.
I think the long term goal has to be to get both in the 17 on a regular basis but that may be a few seasons down the track.'"
More or less what I was implying on the post above yours.
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| hi agree with you rogues lets go through the team
there is no
radlinski
robinson
connolly
miles
offiah
edwards
gregory
platt
dermott
mctigue
betts
farrell
hanley
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: MR FRISK "hi agree with you rogues lets go through the team
there is no
radlinski
robinson
connolly
miles
offiah
edwards
gregory
platt
dermott
mctigue
betts
farrell
hanley
Unfortunately not.
Boston before Robinson though.
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
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| Isn't this Coley's first visit to the Willows since he signed?
If ever there was reason to perform this game would be it!!
I think he will get a 'less than favourable' reception from the nutters under the shed.
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
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| Quote: MR FRISK "hi agree with you rogues lets go through the team
there is no
radlinski
robinson
connolly
miles
offiah
edwards
gregory
platt
dermott
mctigue
betts
farrell
hanley
radlinski
robinson
connolly
moore
bell
paul
smith
cowie
mccormack
c conner
betts
haughton
farrell'"
Paul
Robinson
Inga
Connolly
Offiah
Botica
Edwards
Cowie
Hall
Skerrett
Betts
Mather
Clarke
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I think you just rotate them as and when you see fit really.
It's hard to say lets do it on a regular 3 game basis because of issues with form and fitness. O'Carroll has gone really well at the start of this year but after a hard physical game against a good Leeds pack on Friday maybe now is the time to give the guy a rest. Prescott deserves a shot after his form in the reserves.
I think the long term goal has to be to get both in the 17 on a regular basis but that may be a few seasons down the track.'"
Can't see them both being regulars for another 2 seasons yet though and I can see where jonh (I think its him) is coming from when he says sign Petero
Can't wait to see them in 3/4 years Prescott is the ideal starting prop lets just hope he can put his injury problems behind him because I think he has massive potential. Eamon will be great off the bench IMO hopefully another Danny Nutley To think we nearly didn't give Eamon a new contract last season
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| in the current team i would imagine just young ainscough might get a subs bench and maybe pat would get a game or 2
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| He isn't as good as when he was at Bradford, but I wouldn't say he was past it. He will probably stay at Wigan now, but with a dramatic decrease as others have said. As for the 22 metres that must be incorrect.
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| He may have made more than 22 yards but he was also completely anonymous against Leeds - barely noticed any difference when he was subbed. The three Wigan forwards who stood out for me were Feka, Hock and McIlorum (sp?).
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| If he made these yards and that few carries there must be one of two things going on. He is injured (so why is he playing) or 2 we have purposely not used him much to carry up.
I would imagine it is almost impossible for a prop to carry this few times unless instructed to do so.
That or the figures are wrong.
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