furthermore, the REAL threat to RL is the clubs that are happy to stay where they are rather than try and improve themselves, and therefore the competition as a whole in order to make it more attractive to players and help to retain the players clubs like Wigan and Saints develop

the threat to RL isnt RU or the NRL, its the lower clubs in SL

Please explain (in simple terms) how Sam playing for the Barbarians shows ambition in anything, other than playing RU.

Dont think that you answered the question there

I'd already done that.

That is a cop out.

Plenty of people such as myself see no benefit in Sam playing in that match and nothing you have posted over the last 60 odd pages convinces me this was part of Wigan's ambition to do anything.

im not trying to convince you Dave...

im merely pointing out to our sheep loving friend that if he/she cares to read previous posts in this thread, i wont have to regurgitate information for him/her from the many users who are of the same opinion as myself (and yes, they are plenty of people with the exact opposite opinion)

you can feel free to copy and paste all the posts in the thread to highlight your point if you want to contribute further?

You utterly miss the point. I dont care about Wigan or Sam Tomkins, only the game of RL.
If you think all of this shows ambition, please tell me why and take your head from the dark place that you like to keep it and realise that you have been abused by the RFU.
Although there has been a monetary gain, some things are more important and in the context of this forum, Rugby League should be at the top of everyones agenda.
Not 1 club, 1 person but the good of the sport.

i actually agree with part of your post, RL is the most important aspect of this and, so far, not one thing has been done to damage our sport (if it has, please feel free to provide your proof).

maybe you should look towards what your own club is doing (or, more to the point, not doing) for RL to realise where the true problems lie in our sport. if you arent moving forwards, your going backwards and its clubs like Wakefield that are doing considerable damage to RL in this country and holding the more 'ambitious' clubs like Wigan back

and yes Dave, this is a cop out as its home time and i have a life outside of work/rugby league to get to

bbfn children...

In my opinion quite the opposite. The fact that they consistently failed to get a pass to Sam for the entire game then when they actually do he makes scoring a try look like a walk in the park showed that RL is superior in development and technique (due to the fact that in RL he would have scored several as the passes would have actually reached him)

Exactly my opinion aswell.

If that was the case, that "not 1 club but the good of the sport" was the most important, I presume you'd be all for your team and their ilk kindly leaving SL and letting the big teams compete at a higher level?