Quote: post "I’m not against people with the opposite opinion no, but when the majority of posters who replied were telling me everything is fine, things will work out, give Lam time etc I get it but blind faith won’t work with this issue. I may be the solitary parochial moaning sod but attendances and league position backs up my claim.
The docked points wouldn’t have helped, neither would the recruitment that he probably played no part in and the Edwards debacle would have surely affected the players because of all the uncertainty and it’s shown in league position and the noticeable attendance drop.
I’d give Lam time, accept all those reasons why we aren’t doing as well as we previously have done and accept we are transition IF we looked like a team that knew what they were doing but we don’t, the players look lost on the field, they are trying individually but not as a group. Some players look as though they don’t want to be there and show it in their performances. But don’t say the players read all the negativity on these boards and that’s why they’re playing like they are because that’s more excuses for them.
I know you quoted Madge but those words of wisdom are quite fitting because that’s exactly what we need for starters at the minute but aren’t getting.
I gave Lam time, I accepted all the reasons stated above but after watching game after game the areas in which we are lacking can be fixed by good coaching within a couple of months, but nothing has changed. And for that reason, Lam cannot carry on as head coach IMO.
And if people think Chairmen only start looking for a coach when they need one are dreaming, if they think they only approach coaches once the previous coach has gone they’re dreaming too.
Before we can improve the Clubb needs to sort out who will be permanent coach from next season and what’s going on with Williams.'"
Now forgive me - But a lot of what you put across is pointing the finger at Lam - And I agree
A few of the other things (The 2points, Hardaker/Mullen/Williams/Edwards, especially Edwards) are providing a bit of a smokescreen for me at the moment and although Yes, they shouldn't have happened for whatever reason the truth is This Bunch of players look lost at times
And in my previous words Amateurish & SOFT (not just physically, but mentally & culture wise).
Lam is responsible for a lot of this and He needs to get this right.
He knew the score when he took the job,
Deluded Leneghan is the tile of the thread but he said this prior to Saturday & I think it was a Lazy piece of reactionist posting
If he says it after another good hiding Saturday then maybe I'll agree
But if someone does what Leneghan has over 10 years at Wigan then he deserves a bit of slack after a poor spell IMO (Which I agree he has had over the last 12months).
Lam has yet to do the positive things that deserve that slack IMO
The fans themselves though, to use a phrase I use time to time, Will get what they deserve.
Our Season ticket prices are comparably some of the Best in the country
Our facilities are pretty good (Overall - Not the we don't own the stadium conversation etc.)
Our playing Roster were champions last year and 3 x players replaced
Tomkins - Most liked him, Some didn't; - But Hardaker was a Good replacement (And trust me, Tomkins going was His decision and only based on 1 thing and I don't blame him - And that's virtually from the Horses mouth). Overall as good a replacement as we could have got?
Bateman - Replaced by Greenwood (And please don't start the Greenwood was already here, we only got him in because of Joel leaving etc.) - How do we keep Bateman? He wanted to go etc. I would suggest
Sutton - Replaced by Bullock - Lots of people slagged Sutton and now only realise what they are missing - Bullock gets more positive praise so surely that's not a big change (I think it is but that's a different story).
Top line is, if the fans don't turn up then choices have to be made
And if the vociferous ones on all platforms of social media do nothing but continually run the club down year after year, day after day, what chance have we of increasing the positivity around the club and get more fans in. It's a 2 way street.
I'll be there at Anfield Saturday, and I'll be there next game and game after.
The more people that do that and the more positivity around the things the club is doing right (Which I get will be harder than it was 12months ago) the better.
I just can't think of another club that has had as many things to be positive about that has had to deal with the criticism that Leneghan and Wane previously have had to deal with
Even the successful players Like Tomkins/Burgess/Gildart/Williams etc. get it week in week out for varying reasons - I don't get it
It's like some people don't want them to be successful and take pleasure in wanting them to fail for various reasons.
Anyway
