So St Helens only won back to back to back titles and a challenge cup due to luck? Lmao ok.

Could you get any more bitter lol

I mean, Welsby couldn't have been much luckier that night...

Would be great to get the win to stay ahead in the top 2 race and maybe to give ourselves a chance of the shield. I know it's a minor trophy but when there are only 3 you can win why not get invested in all of them? Not happy that Catalans have a clear advantage here in playing a team running 10th in the table when we play the team that is top (Saints could feel equally aggrieved). The imbalances in the fixture list really aren't great.

I feel a bit cautious about this one though - in reality we've had one game where we got the better of them and they definitely werent on form that day. We're playing well but our last three fixtures have been against bottom 4 teams and we could have defended better last week. One thing we really want to avoid over everything else is taking a step backwards. On Good Friday we were beaten comprehensively in the end and the two games in 2021 were non contests. Hopefully its a very competitive game at least which can give us more reason to believe we're in with a chance at the end of the year and in 2023/beyond.

Not what I said, but again......thanks for proving the point.

I'll put it into basic English:

Fans of winning teams will never say anything apart from they're the best and they always win because they deserve to and that every other team and player is crap. Fans of other clubs will point out perceivee poor decisions that went their way, bits of luck etc etc to make it look like their success is flawed. Wigan being full time for the whole period of our dominance for example.

All fans of successful clubs therefore come across as arrogant, especially those that have only ever seen the success because they jumped on the glory bus.

As Saints are currently the successful club, their fans are coming across as arrogant. Leeds fans did 2007-2009 and no doubt we have done in the past.

Sky Sports are showing the Wigan -Saints game scheduled to start at 6.00pm on Main Event. Obviously not correct, anyone else noticed this?

That's just highlights. The full game is on Sky Sports Mix.

Biggest game in the sport and shoved to Sky Sports Mix.

Don't understand having us on before Leeds and Cas. Big crowd at 4.30, everyone gone home for 6.00

Agreed re: the scheduling - very disappointing to be on SSM.

So what have i learned this week? Well it's more of a regurgitation than a lesson but going through the Wigan and Saints forums :-

We can't win unless we play our best
We can't win unless Saints play their worst
We can only win if we attack their right edge
They are 'vastly' superior
They were robbed against us because Smithies should have been sent off, and robbed in Catalans last week
They have an 'Uber' defence
Players being injured is affecting their continuity
Over the last 2 years only Penrith have conceded 1 more point than them on average (Nice one Yellow Giraffe) Penrith don't play Wakefield though do they. Pity Saints bottled their offer of a match so we could see how similar it is.
Field is a one trick pony yada yada yada

So if Saints turn up and we still play our best and they aren't robbed and their Penrith like defence stops us they are going to put a 'big score' on us

Ah well, i wanted to watch the tennis anyway. Might aswel stay in if it's going to be an NRL style walkover.

It has been a strange week, I’ve given up posting to be honest. I’ve enjoyed the discussions on here in the main but not this week. Some ridiculous comments.

Not sure if the CC win has gone to their heads but suddenly we aren’t all that anymore. Moreover our 3 peat (which is a ridiculously brilliant achievement in a salary capped sport) has now only been achieved through luck, Covid and Woolf cheating.