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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "You’ve heard wrong.'"


so what is the reason then?

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Quote: [Gareth] ""so what is the reason then?'"


He’s been late for training twice.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "He’s been late for training twice.'"

Really? That’s hardly worth even a stern word about….!
Not the dramatic press statement…..

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Quote: Shabino "Really? That’s hardly worth even a stern word about….!
Not the dramatic press statement…..'"


The fact you think being late for work is acceptable speaks volumes. You are obviously a millennial

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Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "We are vulnerable out wide because of the way our Defence sets up to constrict the middle. We are lucky because our scramble defence is so good to counter that vulnerability. However, Jai Field and Bevan French have the pace and X factor to counter our scramble defence. That’s what I worry about the most and we haven’t been in the best form recently. I know that sounds daft considering we beat Catalans away but we were nowhere near at our best. Maybe I’m worrying about nothing, but I did call at the start of the season it would be between us and you'"

I think your right in that running French and Field at Hurrell all day is our best chance to get a result from this one. However I suspect we will not get enough chances to do it in this particular game with the numbers out, particularly in the three quarters. It feels a little like we've crossed a tipping point in losing so many from one particular area of the field. 5 or 6 spread out we could cope with. Less easy when 4 are from one area of the team. Disruption like we're getting from the Hardaker situation probably isn't helping either. I think we'll put up a show...at least I hope so...but I'd be surprised if we get the result. There's always hope in a Derby though so I'll be there with the usual pre match optimism!

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Will be a big test for Miski and will be very tough for us in the front row (deja vu from the last few years).

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "He’s been late for training twice.'"

I know you have decent information so I'll take that as correct. Seems a bit harsh for 2 indiscretions though. That said, maybe Peet is laying down a marker, in which case you have to admire his resolve. When all's said and done this is the biggest regular season game and one he'll be desperate to win.

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Quote: Phuzzy "I know you have decent information so I'll take that as correct. Seems a bit harsh for 2 indiscretions though. That said, maybe Peet is laying down a marker, in which case you have to admire his resolve. When all's said and done this is the biggest regular season game and one he'll be desperate to win.'"


I wouldn’t say it’s harsh. If true, Peet will have had a conversation with Hardaker after the first one and likely explained the consequences should it happen again. When it happened again he had no choice but to go through with it otherwise he’s loose respect. Basic management.

I just wish a few at my work would take a lead out of his book.

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Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "We are vulnerable out wide because of the way our Defence sets up to constrict the middle. We are lucky because our scramble defence is so good to counter that vulnerability. However, Jai Field and Bevan French have the pace and X factor to counter our scramble defence. That’s what I worry about the most and we haven’t been in the best form recently. I know that sounds daft considering we beat Catalans away but we were nowhere near at our best. Maybe I’m worrying about nothing, but I did call at the start of the season it would be between us and you'"


Why are you referencing Saints as “we” when your username is TheWarringtonWolve69?

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Quote: sergeant pepper "All I'll say is that I'm glad I'm not a customer of some of the businesses people work for.

I've got a decent sized team under me and I'd never dream of letting team issues, impact on the service we deliver to clients. If my best team member was a bad egg, then I'd be having serious words and looking to replace them. I wouldn't however take him off my top client's account, especially if they had a mega important project. That would go down like a lead balloon and i doubt me saying "oh he's still here, I'm just teaching him a lesson and setting the culture. We've got a junior working on that important project your paying us."

That doesn't make me weak on culture, if you've got a bad apple then get rid of them. Don't let it impact the service you deliver.

Obviously different for fans and we seem to be treated like mugs by the people we pay our money too..'"


Talking nonsense.

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Quote: Phuzzy "I think your right in that running French and Field at Hurrell all day is our best chance to get a result from this one. However I suspect we will not get enough chances to do it in this particular game with the numbers out, particularly in the three quarters. It feels a little like we've crossed a tipping point in losing so many from one particular area of the field. 5 or 6 spread out we could cope with. Less easy when 4 are from one area of the team. Disruption like we're getting from the Hardaker situation probably isn't helping either. I think we'll put up a show...at least I hope so...but I'd be surprised if we get the result. There's always hope in a Derby though so I'll be there with the usual pre match optimism!'"


I think it could well be French/Field running at Hurrell be the xfactor but losing a great defender in the backs and kicker makes it a bit tougher to come away with a win.
But I will be there and i do believe we could do this as going to the game thinking we will lose is not a option for me .

Come on Wigan you can do this.

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Quote: nathan_rugby "Talking nonsense.'"


Much like you do in almost every post.

I'm happy if people don't agree with me, but it's pretty boring and pointless being on here and not actually contributing.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Much like you do in almost every post.

I'm happy if people don't agree with me, but it's pretty boring and pointless being on here and not actually contributing.'"


To be honest I can see both sides. I was really impressed with Peet doing this as for me it shows big balls and Leadership. Indeed I even posted about it on Linked In as an analogy to culture and leadership and I rarely make posts on there.

However I can also see the point that Wigan's chances of winning are now reduced without Hardaker. They were already short of backs in particular wingers and now he has been dropped. Plus he is the goalkicker so its a double whammy.

However people do like to compare normal life with sport but in reality they are completely different. One of my best mates up until last year was a professional SL coach and had been for a long time so I do have good insight into such matters. I have often tried to compare business decisions with sporting ones and he is always frustrated telling me that they are completely separate.

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Quote: Stu M "To be honest I can see both sides. I was really impressed with Peet doing this as for me it shows big balls and Leadership. Indeed I even posted about it on Linked In as an analogy to culture and leadership and I rarely make posts on there.

However I can also see the point that Wigan's chances of winning are now reduced without Hardaker. They were already short of backs in particular wingers and now he has been dropped. Plus he is the goalkicker so its a double whammy.

However people do like to compare normal life with sport but in reality they are completely different. One of my best mates up until last year was a professional SL coach and had been for a long time so I do have good insight into such matters. I have often tried to compare business decisions with sporting ones and he is always frustrated telling me that they are completely separate.'"


Thanks for the reasoned response.

It's a difficult one. I do think however that whilst they are different environments - money talks & even more so in sport. Hitting Zak in the pocket is no less a punishment that having him miss Friday.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Thanks for the reasoned response.

It's a difficult one. I do think however that whilst they are different environments - money talks & even more so in sport. Hitting Zak in the pocket is no less a punishment that having him miss Friday.'"


I think it's Peet laying down a marker. No-one made more of a bold decision than Ferguson when he sold Whiteside and McGrath due to the drinking culture that had been established. He kept his star man in Robson but the culture was changed quickly enough.

Granted its a weak comparison to Hardaker's situation but Peet has made his bed and now has to lie in it. Will be interested to see what happens moving forward

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