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| Quote: FIOS "He needs to go, was sick of seeing his annoyed/baffled face on sky whenever things werent going well, like this isn’t down to his own terrible decisions and bad coaching.'" couldn't have put it better myself Lam is getting more and more annoying as the season goes by!
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| The rule is very blunt. There’s no sub rules as I’m aware.
A kick, trip or strike is misconduct.
So it is dependent on the referees interpretation.
So did Charnley kick Marshall in the head, or was it contact with the head.
Certainly Charnley made no action to indicate a kicking motion.
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| If we're definitely running with Peet and Lockers next season, we may as well make that switch now.
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| Quote: Cruncher "Said what we all thought, of course, about that ridiculous headknock try, but can't agree that we were the better team.
We fluffed so many chances, especially in the second half. And that's down to the coaching staff.
This Wigan team has lots of effort, but zero finesse.
We really, really lack a cutting edge.
What goes on at training? Do we practise attacking moves, or not? Do we study the basics, because we have given some error-strewn performances this season.
Lam was right to call out Hicks for his most idiotic decision yet, but that didn't lose us the game, Our indiscipline, lack of composure and poorly prepared and non-rehed attack were the main reasons. And all those issues are down to him.'"
We fluffed so many chances….. that’s not down to coaching, that’s down to players. The coaching is aimed to create chances, it’s the players job to convert them into points.
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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "We fluffed so many chances….. that’s not down to coaching, that’s down to players. The coaching is aimed to create chances, it’s the players job to convert them into points.'"
I think you are confusing chances with possesion in the Wire 25
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| Quote: Grimmy "Careless isn't the same as accidental. We can talk about whether he was careless/reckless, and if he was then he needs penalising and red carding given the severity of the offence, but an accidental kick is not a penalty no matter how many times people claim it as fact. I've just watched it back this morning, there is less than a second between Marshall dropping to the floor and Charnley making contact. I don't think it's even careless from Charnley, he's just chasing after a loose ball.'"
So why are penalties given when a player carrying the ball slips before contact resulting in contact to the head from a defender attempting to tackle around waist height, but now hits the head because of the slip ?
Surely that is accidental??
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| Quote: Pemps "If we're definitely running with Peet and Lockers next season, we may as well make that switch now.'"
Exactly my thoughts.
A mate of mine came for the first time since Wane was the Head Coach last night. His comments nailed it for me; he noticed straight away the intensity was incomparable to a few seasons ago.
Upon reflection this morning, I am increasingly frustrated. Warrington were extremely poor; they had not trained in 3 weeks but yet comfortably won in that second half. Yes, we were unlucky to go in at halftime behind but can you imagine the reaction in that 2nd half under Wane?
It's all well and good Lam stating time and time again that 'we are closer to who we are and want to be' but losing that game to that particular Warrington side was a new low for me. They had numerous players out injured/COVID-related and had a prop on one of their wings. I think we just have to hope to make the top 6 and go from there. We must hope that the likes of Hardaker, Field and Bateman make a huge difference. I'm not confident that they will.
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I think it’s harsh his comment but if you look at the actual replay not the live action the player does look up to see where the ball had gone.I
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| Someone in the away end last night had a brilliant throwing arm! They managed to throw a bottle on to the pitch and it landed nearly on the 25! Classy.
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| Quote: ploinerrhino "I think you are confusing chances with possesion in the Wire 25'"
I’m not. I’m responding to the OP.
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| Quote: Brick with eyes "So why are penalties given when a player carrying the ball slips before contact resulting in contact to the head from a defender attempting to tackle around waist height, but now hits the head because of the slip ?
Surely that is accidental??'"
It does happen and is very annoying as it appears to be a 100% given. I get the duty of care aspect, but the defender should be judged less harshly IMO, but I suppose that would require an interpretation by officials and we can all get into another round of debate especially when viewed in real time and slow motion
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| Quote: Grimmy "Careless isn't the same as accidental. We can talk about whether he was careless/reckless, and if he was then he needs penalising and red carding given the severity of the offence, but an accidental kick is not a penalty no matter how many times people claim it as fact. I've just watched it back this morning, there is less than a second between Marshall dropping to the floor and Charnley making contact. I don't think it's even careless from Charnley, he's just chasing after a loose ball.'"
I didn't say it was the same I said covered under that rule. Like if a ball carrying player slips into a tacklers already committed position causing impact with the head on arm, which is often under a second and accidental as well, you even get refs saying and you must have witnessed "I know it's accidental but it's a penalty?" . I also don't think it's reckless or careless but it's interpretation is regular under that rule with any un deliberate head contact.
I also don't think that players slipping into contact should be a pen under the careless part of the rule, it's part and parcel of a high impact contact sport but if your going off how the rules are being judged it was obviously a pen, I don't know how you could see it any other way?
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| Quote: That Mon "I didn't say it was the same I said covered under that rule. Like if a ball carrying player slips into a tacklers already committed position causing impact with the head on arm, which is often under a second and accidental as well, you even get refs saying and you must have witnessed "I know it's accidental but it's a penalty?" . I also don't think it's reckless or careless but it's interpretation is regular under that rule with any un deliberate head contact.
I also don't think that players slipping into contact should be a pen under the careless part of the rule, it's part and parcel of a high impact contact sport but if your going off how the rules are being judged it was obviously a pen, I don't know how you could see it any other way?'"
So you don't think it should be a penalty and neither do the officials. Sounds like the correct outcome was achieved. Seriously, it's daft this. It's like we're annoyed with the officials for not giving the wrong decision. Wire fans are laughing at us on their board over our reaction to this, and rightfully so.
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| Quote: DizzyHeights "Played for the penalty by staying down and didn’t get it, he wasn’t bad today but Marshall’s play acting there was a disgrace.'"
you from warrington by any chance?
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| Quote: Grimmy "So you don't think it should be a penalty and neither do the officials. Sounds like the correct outcome was achieved. Seriously, it's daft this. It's like we're annoyed with the officials for not giving the wrong decision. Wire fans are laughing at us on their board over our reaction to this, and rightfully so.'"
No it's just hypocritical. The refs are quick to pen us for anything and everything & that's before you get to the judiciary and what they see. But when one of our lads gets booted in the head, it's play on, nothing to see here. You then throw in the fact they didn't even go to the video ref and it's starting to confirm the bias many suspect.
It's the same old story tho, refs are protected and every week they get defended for making calls that have major impacts on the game.
Nothing will ever change as long as the waggons are circled and you all to$$ each other off after a game, shouting into your echo chamber of how good of a job your doing. What makes even worse are opposition fans who'll just go along with it because they won, but are too dumb to realise it will happen to them soon. That's why I backed McManus a few years back, even though some of our fans were loving it.
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