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| Quote: The Chin's Back "Admittedly it's a weird old season
But Adrian Lam wins the league leaders shield for Wigan
Could he yet deliver the SLGF trophy too?
Do you guys still want him out?'"
His team selection in a fortnight will be his big test, got a horrible feeling he'll pick Burgess and O'Loughlin and that's us basically playing with 15 men, hope I'm wrong or if I'm not the two mentioned prove me wrong big time.
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| Quote: The Chin's Back "Admittedly it's a weird old season
But Adrian Lam wins the league leaders shield for Wigan
Could he yet deliver the SLGF trophy too?
Do you guys still want him out?'"
Whilst not denying how good we’ve played recently (exception to the Hudds game but we were never going to come out with the same intensity as v Saints) - yes.
I think a lot of the points raised in this thread prior still stand. I’m happy for the LLS win, and happy we’re in an advantageous position but as others have pointed out that has now raised expectations and cranked up the pressure. If we wither and die in the play offs all the good will he’s garnered will evaporate. I don’t think a GF win will save him, for me he’s probably already got a 2021 contract nor do I think it’s GF or bust for him for the same reasons but as I’ve said expectations are now higher.
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| Never wanted him out and still won't if he doesn't win the GF. As I've mentioned on several previous posts I'm not sure he's had a fair crack of the whip and, given the circumstances, he's done Ok. Still something to prove for sure but I'd like to see what he was capable of when the season was just about rugby and not the Edwards fiasco, Covid etc.
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| Quote: The Chin's Back "Admittedly it's a weird old season
But Adrian Lam wins the league leaders shield for Wigan
Could he yet deliver the SLGF trophy too?
Do you guys still want him out?'"
If they win the SLGF, the usual suspects will still not be happy, but they will not say that IL and KR have not made a wrong decision in the appointment of Lam as they never see them ever making any wrong decision.
You cannot have it both ways, by calling the Coach and wanting him to go, but heap praise on the ones who make the decisions which include the appointment of a Coach.
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| I won't beat around the bush. For 2 seasons we have been woeful (especially in the big games) and the last few weeks have been chalk and cheese in comparison. If we go into the play off semi with the same intensity we have shown and get to the GF and then even lose the GF without choking like we have against Leeds CC semi for example then i will begrudgingly give him another year. I was one of the ones until recently that was all for him Staying. My patience ran out against Hull KR but lets see how the rest of the season goes. Another debacle in the semi and its a big 'NO' from me.
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| Sign him up for me.
Do I expect to win the SL title this year? No.
Can we win it? Yes but I think this team is a year away from maturing enough to be considered favourites.
So far I think the team has improved, the style of rugby has improved, the entertainment on display has improved and individual players have improved under Lam.
I think if you look at the team and rumoured signing and confirmed (Field & Bateman) he is building his squad with an aggressive tough pack and bags of pace and flair in the backs.
The discipline and silly penalties have been removed from our game which allows us to build pressure so much more effectively.
Great example on Friday when the Giants were having to carry set after set off their line, in the past I always expected an offside for being too eager or a totally unnecessary Faz laying on penalty. They seem to be a thing of the past.
I think he is doing a fantastic job to be honest, I’d take him off the rolling year and give him a 2 year deal without hesitation.
I appreciate the Leeds semi was a massive disappointment and that seems to be a major black mark against him. In all honestly I don’t think any team in SL would have beaten Leeds that day. The conditions played into their hands and their forwards were unbelievable, sometimes you just have to give credit to the opposition.
With the exception of Burgess for obvious reasons his recruitment has been first class.
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| Quote: jonh "Sign him up for me.
Do I expect to win the SL title this year? No.
Can we win it? Yes but I think this team is a year away from maturing enough to be considered favourites.
So far I think the team has improved, the style of rugby has improved, the entertainment on display has improved and individual players have improved under Lam.
I think if you look at the team and rumoured signing and confirmed (Field & Bateman) he is building his squad with an aggressive tough pack and bags of pace and flair in the backs.
The discipline and silly penalties have been removed from our game which allows us to build pressure so much more effectively.
Great example on Friday when the Giants were having to carry set after set off their line, in the past I always expected an offside for being too eager or a totally unnecessary Faz laying on penalty. They seem to be a thing of the past.
I think he is doing a fantastic job to be honest, I’d take him off the rolling year and give him a 2 year deal without hesitation.
I appreciate the Leeds semi was a massive disappointment and that seems to be a major black mark against him. In all honestly I don’t think any team in SL would have beaten Leeds that day. The conditions played into their hands and their forwards were unbelievable, sometimes you just have to give credit to the opposition.
With the exception of Burgess for obvious reasons his recruitment has been first class.'"
Bar the last month we must of been watching two different teams as we have been poor in many matches and obviously choked big time in every big game.
We still look like we don't actually have a game plan or set moves, but its all opinion's i suppose.
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| I cannot see Lam being given the heave ho. Despite the circumstances he finished top of the pile and that counts for something. At last the defence seems to have been organised to allow the rest of the team to play. In the forwards we can all see that we are one dominant prop short and someone need to carry the can for the George Burgess fiasco but probably not Lam. Other than that we look as good for next season as I can remember. The backs worry me because I like to see pace outside and our wingers all seem to be broken.
I think that we look better balanced when we can go with three forwards and a back on the bench so seeing Clubb, O'loughlin and Burgess keeping a single seat warm is a really frightening prospect. A real test of Lams leadership qualities will be if he can say to those three "Sorry lads but you have not done enough to warrant inclusion".
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| Quote: Ruddy Duck "If they win the SLGF, the usual suspects will still not be happy, but they will not say that IL and KR have not made a wrong decision in the appointment of Lam as they never see them ever making any wrong decision.
You cannot have it both ways, by calling the Coach and wanting him to go, but heap praise on the ones who make the decisions which include the appointment of a Coach.'"
Of course you can.
Some coaches work out, others don't.
Look at the appointment of Ian Millward. A total success at Saints, a disaster at Wigan.
It's never as simple as you guys who are constantly (and pointlessly) lobbying for the chairman's removal always claim.
Adrian Lam is here because Ian Lenagan made one mistake: trusting Shaun Edwards. Line that up against all his trophy wins and he doesn't look like so much of a catastrophe..
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| This GF semi is the big test for Lam. If we win then he's safe. If the team perform as they have done in the past three semis under his coaching then he will go. Perhaps not for 2021 as IL could well sign him for a year which will give him 12 months to find a quality coach.
Come 2022 and it's the club's 150th anniversary when all expectations from everyone associated with the club will be a trophy (s). Having a coach in place in 2022 who can't win semis is quite simply not an option.
So this GF semi is massively important for Lam.
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| With the 150 year anniversary, are we forgetting the few years in which we didn't exist?
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