In the Daily Star today there is an article with Shaun Wane discussing the cancelled Ashes series and the idea of the Exiles game,at the end of the interview he goes on about George and how he wouldn't have been 100% happy with last weekend's display had they both still been at Wigan.I think George had to leave Wigan as he had gone stale and needed a new challenge,i really hope that he can really make it in Australia as English halves don't tend to do well down under

This is the sort of constructive point I referred to when I said people should be allowed an opinion that isn’t always singing players praises. We’ve produced so many good players over this past decade but you’re right that some just seem to hit a brick wall in terms of development. It’s not just at Wigan though, you only need to look at Saints and how guys like Makinson and Lomax found an extra gear under a good coach like Holbrook. They were good players before he come, no more and no less and they didn’t look like lads who had much development left in them but once Holbrook came in they went up a couple of levels. They both reached a level of performance and consistency I’d not seen before. Maybe that proves that good coaching can bring that out of players.

I look at two lads in the same positions in Joe Burgess and Williams and I saw at the end of 2019 two lads in a similar position to what Lomax and Makinson were in just prior to Holbrook coming over. Two good players, one playing well but not at his absolute best and one not in great form but still a good player. I thought and still think in the case of Burgess that they have so much more to give. The move for Williams looks to be dragging it out of him but what will spark Burgess up? He’s far too good to be playing back up at any superleague club but how can he find that old spark? The coach plays a part but he’s got to show a desire to want to get it back and to kick on to become what his talent warrants. He’s got everything to be one of the very best in the world IMO but does he want it as desperately as somebody like Tommy Makinson? He’s more talented than Makinson IMO but does he have that desire? I’m not too sure.

Its not so often you are wrong but you are right again. Absolutely nailed it.

If we keep producing players good enough to be signed up by nrl clubs then we will continue to be successful along the way. I am not sure why people see it as such a negative, we should be proud to watch these lads plying there trade at the very top.

We need to continue developing your Smiths, Hanleys, Havards, Kilners, McDonnells ect.... its what we do better than any other club and it must continue.

I'm yet to find an occasion on which he hasn't been wrong

If our players are so inferior to Aussie players as some supporters seem to think, why are the Aussie clubs so keen and eager on signing them?

As for our players who do go, its not because of wanting a new challenge, being stale or whatever, its simply all about the higher money in the NRL.

Just like when top Union players came to our game for the money, which ended in 1996 when Union went professional.

Having said the above, we can only be thankful that they are staying in Rugby League where they will be eligible for our International teams and not going to Rugby Union.

bet George isnt on the same money in the NRL as he was here

Other way round if anything - I mean I did Have to show him how an Erection worked!

It wont be much more if any. Obviously if he keeps playing like he did last week that will change.

Noticed that Camberra Raiders have got him wearing the number seven shirt and playing in his proper position of Scrum Half.

Might explain why he is playing well for them because as far as I am concerned, he is never or was a Stand Off.

Its DEFINITELY that
There is no chance that the armchair experts used him as a scapegoat and dont know what they're talking about.