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| Quote: Mash Butty "Can a moderator advise on what can and cannot be said on here please?'"
Not a mod but i generally like to go off the "Don't say anything you couldn't back up in court" rule.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| IF it's true
The club need to make a statement, but in reality can't do until he receives his charge sheet.
If it were me I'd fine him heavily, insist he moves over here immediately, at his own expense, any refusal would be immediate termination of contract.
OR they could sell him back to Cas for a transfer fee, now that would be good
I always stated that it was too big a risk but hey ho that's life, at the moment it has only cost Wigan about one months salary.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "IF it's true
The club need to make a statement, but in reality can't do until he receives his charge sheet.
If it were me I'd fine him heavily, insist he moves over here immediately, at his own expense, any refusal would be immediate termination of contract.
OR they could sell him back to Cas for a transfer fee, now that would be good
Don’t think he can be paid until his ban ends. He can train etc but can’t be employed. So he’ll have cost nothing but the expensive legal fees to get a shortened ban. Which another club will take advantage off if Wigan give him the boot.
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "IF it's true
The club need to make a statement, but in reality can't do until he receives his charge sheet.
If it were me I'd fine him heavily, insist he moves over here immediately, at his own expense, any refusal would be immediate termination of contract.
OR they could sell him back to Cas for a transfer fee, now that would be good
It's also cost us months where we could have been looking for a marquee full back or scrum half
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| Due in court on 11th October. Charged with driving with excess alcohol, driving whilst uninsured and driving without an MOT.
He’s also assisting police with their enquiries regarding a large quantity of class A found in the car.
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| Confirmed by Phil Wilkinson on Twitter. Also states the club have made a brief statement but will make no further comment until judicial process has been completed.
I honestly don’t know what we should do. I know we have Escare and I know he’s a good player but I just wonder if he’s good enough at FB defensively.
Do we say “now you’re in last chance saloon”? It’s not like we haven’t had players drink drive in the past is it (Gelling springs to mind). Then again we haven’t had a player with Zak’s chequered past drink drive. Or do we say “You had your chance, you blew it” (no pun intended).
I can’t make my mind up to be perfectly honest. If I was pushed I’d probably tip on the let him go side.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Due in court on 11th October. Charged with driving with excess alcohol, driving whilst uninsured and driving without an MOT.
He’s also assisting police with their enquiries regarding a large quantity of class A found in the car.'"
I doubt that. If that was the case Zak would have been Released Under Investigation (RUI) and not charged with any offence and instead summonsed to court by a postal requisition for all offences laid. The Police don’t charge someone with some offences but not others still being investigated which are part of the same incident.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "
Do we say “now you’re in last chance saloon”?.'"
Zak spends his life in the last chance saloon. I thought he was already there when Wigan signed him. The trouble is that he’s always turning his life around. Fact is that he can’t.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "I doubt that. If that was the case Zak would have been Released Under Investigation (RUI) and not charged with any offence and instead summonsed to court by a postal requisition for all offences laid. The Police don’t charge someone with some offences but not others still being investigated which are part of the same incident.'"
Doubt it all you want, but the statements confirm he is still assisting police. He wouldn’t be assisting them with offences he’s already been charged for, would he?
Unfortunately, as I’ve said throughout this thread, Zak is incapable of making the right choice. When most of us would walk away or say no, Zak just does it anyway.
He needs serious help.
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| An embarrassment to the sport and to himself.
Mistakes happen in life but when you make the amount of mistakes he has, suffer the consequences.for those mistakes and yet still continue to make them - theres not too much you can do.
Was willing to give him a chance but only the one. Go with Escare and sign the right halfback when he becomes available.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Zak spends his life in the last chance saloon. I thought he was already there when Wigan signed him. The trouble is that he’s always turning his life around. Fact is that he can’t.'"
What I want to say is that I profoundly disagree. What I have to say is that I profoundly agree. I don’t have much else to add really.
Quote: nottinghamtiger "Doubt it all you want, but the statements confirm he is still assisting police. He wouldn’t be assisting them with offences he’s already been charged for, would he?'"
It’s a pretty standard statement mate, generally means he’s not caused any issues and has accepted it. You’re talking to someone who knows what the process is and isn’t when it comes to charging. If there was a quantity of class A in his car there’s a few things that would have to happen;
- Interview
- Forensic testing to confirm
- Charge if applicable
If ZH had admitted what it was etc he’d have been charged possession at the very least plus the other laid offences. Fact is he has been charged with drink drive, no insurance and no MOT. Like I said, the possession would have been charged with it so all offences are dealt with by the court at the same time saving multiple witness calls to court for different dates for the same incident. As he has been charged and not RUI, there will not be anymore charges laid at ZH.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "What I want to say is that I profoundly disagree. What I have to say is that I profoundly agree. I don’t have much else to add really.
It’s a pretty standard statement mate, generally means he’s not caused any issues and has accepted it. You’re talking to someone who knows what the process is and isn’t when it comes to charging. If there was a quantity of class A in his car there’s a few things that would have to happen;
- Interview
- Forensic testing to confirm
- Charge if applicable
If ZH had admitted what it was etc he’d have been charged possession at the very least plus the other laid offences. Fact is he has been charged with drink drive, no insurance and no MOT. Like I said, the possession would have been charged with it so all offences are dealt with by the court at the same time saving multiple witness calls to court for different dates for the same incident. As he has been charged and not RUI, there will not be anymore charges laid at ZH.'"
My understanding is that someone else in the car has been charged with the drugs offence.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "My understanding is that someone else in the car has been charged with the drugs offence.'"
That clears that up then, and if true then IMHO it gives even more credence to releasing ZH.
Literally couldn’t make it up could you? Banned for drugs, gets another chance at a top SL club, gets caught drunk driving with no insurance or MOT and another person in the car gets found with Class A’s on him.
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| BIN HIM OFF, Promote Escare and use Hardakers money to entice a good half back
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| Time to ask Catalan do they 'really' need Sam?
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