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| Quote: Grimmy "I know it seems almost certain that Hardaker will be the replacement, but would it not be worth looking for a marquee 7 instead? I feel like overall I'd prefer
1. Hardaker 6.Williams 7. Woods or Sharrocks 9. Powell 14. Escare
We wont get a new Marquee will just see one of the players changed to Marquee - Bateman
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| Quote: King Johns II "1. Hardaker 6.Williams 7. Woods or Sharrocks 9. Powell 14. Escare
We wont get a new Marquee will just see one of the players changed to Marquee - Bateman'"
1 Hardaker
6 Williams
7 Shorrocks
9 Powell/Ganson
Perhaps? How's Shorrocks progressing?
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "1 Hardaker
6 Williams
7 Shorrocks
9 Powell/Ganson
Perhaps? How's Shorrocks progressing?'"
From what I've seen Salford fans aren't happy with him. I don't know how much game time he's had, but I saw someone say, "I can't believe we've got the only lad from Wigan never to have touched a rugby ball".
That said, it was on Twitter, so I shouldn't trust it too much.
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| Quote: DaveO "I am saying there is a going rate for Sam Tomkins. If that is the same or more than when he was at his peak then that just reflects the market for players today. The dearth of talent available to SL will put the value of the few class players knocking about in SL up even if they are no longer at their peak when they can play as well as Sam T still can.'"
I think the club have accurately assessed what his value is, as one of the three or four best Wigan players of the past decade, and have offered him that. Even Sam said it was a higher offer than he was expecting.
What I don't understand though, is Sam's insistence on going now, rather than in a few years time, when he could still afford the lifestyle while still having chance of more medals, perhaps even another MoS.
I don't think the club should have done any more than they have, to try and keep him.
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| So when do we get the counteractive positive news story and when can we officially call him ratboy? Not that I would BTW.
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| Quote: DaveO "I'd be very pleasantly surprised if we did get a marquee 7 but I can't see it for two reasons. First I would guess it's going to be at least as expensive as paying Tomkins what the club said it would in 2019 but welched on and it doesn't want to pay that kind of money. Secondly there is Wane's misplaced faith/loyalty in/to Powell who has the 7 shirt who was given a new improved deal at the start of this season.'"
I suppose the question really is whether they don't to pay that kind of money, or don't want to pay that kind of money for S.Tomkins. I can definitely understand wanting to pay him less, given his age and the amount of time he has spent out injured/off form. They may be willing to pay more for a younger/better player with a better injury record.
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| I can see our back line next season being
1. Escare
2. Burgess
3. Gildart
4. Hardaker
5. Marshall
6. Williams
7. Powell
9. Ganson (TL bench back up)
I honestly don’t believe SW will switch Powell from 7 to hooker. Nor do I see Sarginson seriously contending for a centre spot.
For me personally I’d have Hardaker at FB and as already been mentioned a marquee #7 but also a new centre in place of Sarginson. Escare to continue as utility from the bench or 18th man.
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| Signing announced by Catalan
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| Here’s a quote from ‘homesick’ Tomkins when he left NZ ......
“ I never expected I would miss England and the comforts of home but it took an off-season trip back to Wigan for me to realise this is where I wanted to be “
I’ve lost all respect for this fellow
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| Quote: Brick with eyes "Here’s a quote from ‘homesick’ Tomkins when he left NZ ......
“ I never expected I would miss England and the comforts of home but it took an off-season trip back to Wigan for me to realise this is where I wanted to be “
I’ve lost all respect for this fellow'"
Yes, France is the other side of the world
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| Good luck to him, no hard feelings from me. Hope he improves Catalans.
A shame that he spent most of his second stint here on the sidelines. I think it speaks volumes that everyone of the highlights in the video Catalans used to announce his signing are pre 2016.
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| Quote: MadDogg "Good luck to him, no hard feelings from me. Hope he improves Catalans.
A shame that he spent most of his second stint here on the sidelines. I think it speaks volumes that everyone of the highlights in the video Catalans used to announce his signing are pre 2016.'"
That is a abit daft if they have. He's had his moments this season already. I am sure they could have found something more relevant.
No hard feeling from me either. If I'd signed a deal that said I'd get paid £X in 2019 if I was at the club and then the club asked me to take less even with a longer deal on offer I'd have gone looking elsewhere. If he'd have gone anyway because he genuinely does want to live in France then good for him.
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| Quote: DaveO "I am saying there is a going rate for Sam Tomkins. If that is the same or more than when he was at his peak then that just reflects the market for players today. The dearth of talent available to SL will put the value of the few class players knocking about in SL up even if they are no longer at their peak when they can play as well as Sam T still can.'"
But as I've said previously Dave, it isn't his market value. It is the value one (and only one) team are prepared to pay. Given that that team is one with a long history of poor decisions when valuing players, even to the point of causing bitterness and unrest among their own squad, then to use this as some kind of yardstick to measure his worth borders on the insane. At best it's cutting your cloth according to the worst tailor on the row. If it was his market value there would be a clamour for his services at that price. There isn't. There's a reason for that.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "But as I've said previously Dave, it isn't his market value. It is the value one (and only one) team are prepared to pay. Given that that team is one with a long history of poor decisions when valuing players, even to the point of causing bitterness and unrest among their own squad, then to use this as some kind of yardstick to measure his worth borders on the insane. At best it's cutting your cloth according to the worst tailor on the row. If it was his market value there would be a clamour for his services at that price. There isn't. There's a reason for that.'"
Well said. ATEOTD, Leeds and Saints didn't come knocking, did they?
I really can't see who this "Marquee 7" people keep talking about is coming from. I can't think of any feasible candidates offhand, either here or in the NRL. We'll probably end up bringing one of our own lads through. Look at Richardson at Saints, he looks a really good kid, was he one of their own?
Anyway, I'm rather less down on Powell than many here, and we have Woods and Shorrocks, and maybe others too, to back him up.
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""Yes, France is the other side of the world'"
Ask Scott Taylors missus about distances and homesickness
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