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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "It can be difficult keeping up to date when you've spent all last season hiding under a stone somewhere, cut them some slack, eh?'"
They weren't under a stone mate, they were languishing in the middle 8s looking forward to an away game at Batley!!
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| Quote: Jukesays "No hes still playing.
Still picking up grand final winners trophies.
Now picking up World Club champions trophies.'"
Hasn't sarcasm hit the dark side of the hill yet?
By the way how many rings has he collected so far?
How's your bloke with the stiff neck getting on?
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| Quote: ant1 "Hasn't sarcasm hit the dark side of the hill yet?
By the way how many rings has he collected so far?
How's your bloke with the stiff neck getting on?'"
Absolutely no idea what that means about sarcasm?
If you were trying to be sarcastic then it's one of the worst attempts I've ever seen.
You said is "Sicknote" still playing, you thought he'd retired?
How is that sarcastic?
He has 3 grand final rings? Again not sure what your point is?
As for asking me about the bloke with the stiff neck, well I think that just sums you up perfectly.
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| Quote: ant1 "Hasn't sarcasm hit the dark side of the hill yet?
By the way how many rings has he collected so far?
How's your bloke with the stiff neck getting on?'"
It'll be interesting to see how your guy with the obvious biscuit addiction gets on at the judiciary this week.
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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "It'll be interesting to see how your guy with the obvious biscuit addiction gets on at the judiciary this week.'"
Unfortunately I think he will be let off with a fairly lenient sentence. I've often criticised the RFL disciplinary as. Ring too soft and don't expect that to change anytime soon.
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| Quote: Jukesays "Absolutely no idea what that means about sarcasm?
If you were trying to be sarcastic then it's one of the worst attempts I've ever seen.
You said is "Sicknote" still playing, you thought he'd retired?
How is that sarcastic?
He has 3 grand final rings? Again not sure what your point is?
As for asking me about the bloke with the stiff neck, well I think that just sums you up perfectly.'"
I think its pretty obvious what his point is
He hasnt got nearly as many rings as our captain... or former captain... or even Ian Kirke for that matter
(Actually do you even get rings in SL? I though you were given winners medals instead?)
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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "It got worse every time I watched it. What was he thinking?'"
not being funny here (but i guess i am) but 10 years ago or even less no one would have batted an eyelid at that tackle it would have just been seen as misfortune, not saying its right, but to say its malicious is way over the top, its careless and now illegal, sin binning probably been ok 5 years ago but with trial by social media factor probable a 1-2 game ban, and thats probably fair enough, but lets not make it out to be something worse than it is, if say kalum watkins or ryan hall made that tackle would there be the same outrage.
and as for Ablett and whatever he's called (the wrecking ball) its just part of the game hands in false head into face elbows on floor, always has been, and long may it continue, this is Rugby league after all.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "not being funny here (but i guess i am) but 10 years ago or even less no one would have batted an eyelid at that tackle it would have just been seen as misfortune, not saying its right, but to say its malicious is way over the top, its careless and now illegal, sin binning probably been ok 5 years ago but with trial by social media factor probable a 1-2 game ban, and thats probably fair enough, but lets not make it out to be something worse than it is, if say kalum watkins or ryan hall made that tackle would there be the same outrage.
and as for Ablett and whatever he's called (the wrecking ball) its just part of the game hands in false head into face elbows on floor, always has been, and long may it continue, this is Rugby league after all.'"
Im not having that mate, surely a crusher tackle would have at least seen you spend 1 game on the sidelines
As for Ablett, no way will he get in any trouble for something that happens multiple times in every game, Im not a huge fan of it as I like the game to be played hard but fair, but if he keeps playing well then I dont really care tbh
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| Quote: leedsnsouths "I think its pretty obvious what his point is
He hasnt got nearly as many rings as our captain... or former captain... or even Ian Kirke for that matter
Ooooooookkkkk?
Not sure what how many grand final wins someone has won has to do with this particular discussion?
Pretty sure someone mentioned that they hope lockers plays next time we meet (along with mickey mac/Bateman etc.) as ablett/ferres wouldn't be so keen to push their luck.
If every reply is based on how many winners rings/medals someone has then we may all pack in and sit back that Leeds can't do no wrong as an ex player once won more medals than everyone who currently plays now.
Every discussion is null and void because of that?
Oh wait
I'd play the sean Edwards card but keep forgetting RL only started 96.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "not being funny here (but i guess i am) but 10 years ago or even less no one would have batted an eyelid at that tackle it would have just been seen as misfortune, not saying its right, but to say its malicious is way over the top, its careless and now illegal, sin binning probably been ok 5 years ago but with trial by social media factor probable a 1-2 game ban, and thats probably fair enough, but lets not make it out to be something worse than it is, if say kalum watkins or ryan hall made that tackle would there be the same outrage.
and as for Ablett and whatever he's called (the wrecking ball) its just part of the game hands in false head into face elbows on floor, always has been, and long may it continue, this is Rugby league after all.'"
To be fair my mate made the same observation yesterday about what was accepted then as opposed to now and I did concede the point to a degree. However, we'll have to disagree about Ferres' intent. IMO it was quite deliberate with malice afore thought. I'm one that remembers the violence of the old days and would welcome back a bit of biff but this was a pretty bad effort and I'd be amazed if he only gets 1-2 for it.
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| From today's press conference:
On Oliver Gildart: “He’s seeing a neurologist today. It’s a serious back injury and he’ll be out for two to three months.” SW
On the incident: “We’ll let the powers that be deal with it. My job is to get the team ready for Thursday.” SW
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| Quote: Pie Eyed "From today's press conference
What a nightmare for Gildart who was playing his way into the England squad on his early season form.
However long Ferres gets won't help Wigan one iota. We don't play them again until July. I'm pretty sure it won't be forgotten though.
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I wonder how the disciplinary will view that "tackle" now in view of Gildarts condition. I think they can add to the suspension if the injury is deemed to be long term and caused by foul play.
www.seriousaboutrl.com/gildart-injury-5914/
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I wonder how the disciplinary will view that "tackle" now in view of Gildarts condition. I think they can add to the suspension if the injury is deemed to be long term and caused by foul play.
www.seriousaboutrl.com/gildart-injury-5914/
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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "To be fair my mate made the same observation yesterday about what was accepted then as opposed to now and I did concede the point to a degree. However, we'll have to disagree about Ferres' intent. IMO it was quite deliberate with malice afore thought. I'm one that remembers the violence of the old days and would welcome back a bit of biff but this was a pretty bad effort and I'd be amazed if he only gets 1-2 for it.'"
too be fair i have seem far worst tackles in recent years even it the sanitized modern game, and ferres has been both the tackler and victim of them. he's ridiculous wrestling suplex piledriver on jonny lomax was far worse and worthy of a long ban, he was also the victim on rangi chase cannonball tackle on was out for weeks with that. i think if this was just ferres one on one tackle and resulted in the crusher tackle then fair enough 6-8 match ban, but others were involved and Gildart does push back with the legs and this combined with delaney being on top of ferres results in this unfortunate tackle.
when people take their blinkers off they will see that's its careless and irresponsible but ultimately unfortunate that the lads got injured.
personally dont care much for ferres full stop we have better players than him and stevie ward due back anyway so ban him for as long as they like.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "too be fair i have seem far worst tackles in recent years even it the sanitized modern game, and ferres has been both the tackler and victim of them. he's ridiculous wrestling suplex piledriver on jonny lomax was far worse and worthy of a long ban, he was also the victim on rangi chase cannonball tackle on was out for weeks with that. i think if this was just ferres one on one tackle and resulted in the crusher tackle then fair enough 6-8 match ban, but others were involved and Gildart does push back with the legs and this combined with delaney being on top of ferres results in this unfortunate tackle.
when people take their blinkers off they will see that's its careless and irresponsible but ultimately unfortunate that the lads got injured.
personally dont care much for ferres full stop we have better players than him and stevie ward due back anyway so ban him for as long as they like.'"
I think the big difference is not that he ended up on top of him. I'd agree with you if that we the case. You can't ignore that the tackle was done, he picked him up and dumped him back down. That's the big I and I assume the others have. It suggests intention as without it, why would you do that?
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