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Looking at the match stats it would appear that Hampshire had to make a lot of tackles but only missed two. Did Wire target him? For whatever reason Cas don't appear to be playing to the stronger part of his game (running) as he only made 30 metres from six carries. Gale mad a lot more metres but had much less defending to do.

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Looking at the match stats it would appear that Hampshire had to make a lot of tackles but only missed two. Did Wire target him? For whatever reason Cas don't appear to be playing to the stronger part of his game (running) as he only made 30 metres from six carries. Gale mad a lot more metres but had much less defending to do.

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presuming he's deffo number 18, looks like he did a fair amount of standing and watching for a few tries.

www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... highlights
presuming he's deffo number 18, looks like he did a fair amount of standing and watching for a few tries.

www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... highlights


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Yeah, *that's* how the game should be played! A bit of pace! Just too quick for Cas.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Looking at the match stats it would appear that Hampshire had to make a lot of tackles but only missed two. Did Wire target him? For whatever reason Cas don't appear to be playing to the stronger part of his game (running) as he only made 30 metres from six carries. Gale mad a lot more metres but had much less defending to do.


You can see from the video of the tries that his defense was pretty ineffective, Warrington certainly seemed to target his side to attack but he was lined up with Crooks, McMeekan and Monaghan so there may as well as been a neon sign saying "Attack Here" above them.

The game seemed to just pass him by. I'm not sure how long Roberts is out for but you'd imagine he'd be straight back in at stand-off. I just can't see Hampshire as a Super League stand-off at present. When the teams lined-up prior to kick-off he was notably smaller than his team-mates and that will be a problem if he is to defend in the defensive line, he will be a spot player for any team.

He does need to find a position that he can contribute from. In all honestly all I can see for him at the moment is either wing or full-back played in a similar fashion to Matty Russell which is all about quick scoots and kick returns and bouncing out of tackles, maybe that will suit his strengths.

He may well develop into a Super League stand-off however from Friday's showing he's miles off that at present.

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Quote: Paul Youane "You can see from the video of the tries that his defense was pretty ineffective, Warrington certainly seemed to target his side to attack but he was lined up with Crooks, McMeekan and Monaghan so there may as well as been a neon sign saying "Attack Here" above them.

The game seemed to just pass him by. I'm not sure how long Roberts is out for but you'd imagine he'd be straight back in at stand-off. I just can't see Hampshire as a Super League stand-off at present. When the teams lined-up prior to kick-off he was notably smaller than his team-mates and that will be a problem if he is to defend in the defensive line, he will be a spot player for any team.

He does need to find a position that he can contribute from. In all honestly all I can see for him at the moment is either wing or full-back played in a similar fashion to Matty Russell which is all about quick scoots and kick returns and bouncing out of tackles, maybe that will suit his strengths.

He may well develop into a Super League stand-off however from Friday's showing he's miles off that at present.'"


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He is a young player who has made 2 appearances for a new club in matches where his team have been totally dominated in every area.

Defiantly time to write him off.........

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It highlights the problem that we have no decent level below SL to allow players develop their game.

Williams and rocky playing in together in a team that dominated probably all but one or two other teams they played against. Many Wigan fans wanted them both in the 1st team together.

It doesn't provide the environment for a half to learn the art of leading a team and working out how to unlock a defence. It's all to easy to go through a gap if you're a player like rocky. Those gaps don't appear as easily in SL.

The last time we had two promising halves they were thrown in too early, were too inexperienced, ended up being sold and it took a good few years to establish themselves. Wigan fans don't have the patience for that, especially in key positions.

It will take a couple of seasons to judge what level rocky can play at I think. Do we have the patience to find out?

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The one big worry I've always had with him is that he looks like he lacks a little confidence. He seems a decent lad but pretty quiet and as a halfback that's not going to make it easy to communicate. There's no doubting his natural ability. The lad is a fantastic young player but you sense his confidence has taken a hit over these past couple of years of what's seemingly been a frustrating time filling in at fullback whilst wanting to play in the halves.

It'd be nice to see what he could do in a confident Cas side which was winning and playing well but unfortunately that Cas side will probably have Dorn and Roberts in it which means he then won't be.

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Quote: Big Steve "It highlights the problem that we have no decent level below SL to allow players develop their game.

Williams and rocky playing in together in a team that dominated probably all but one or two other teams they played against. Many Wigan fans wanted them both in the 1st team together.

It doesn't provide the environment for a half to learn the art of leading a team and working out how to unlock a defence. It's all to easy to go through a gap if you're a player like rocky. Those gaps don't appear as easily in SL.

The last time we had two promising halves they were thrown in too early, were too inexperienced, ended up being sold and it took a good few years to establish themselves. Wigan fans don't have the patience for that, especially in key positions.

It will take a couple of seasons to judge what level rocky can play at I think. Do we have the patience to find out?'"


Think the biggest issue there Big Steve is does he? I don't think he does. Seems to me he is desperate to play and will go anywhere to do so.

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The amount of stick that Wane has taken over his decision to promote Williams over Rocky beggars belief. Although very talented, Ryan was not physically near ready whereas Williams was. To hear people demanding the sacking of Smith for an untried talent was laughable. Hampshire needs time to mature, and at full back he would have been able to develop, but unfortunately not being played in his favored position damaged his confidence. I hope that he will come good but he needs someone to tell him not to believe the hype.

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Quote: Levrier "I hope that he will come good but he needs someone to tell him not to believe the hype.'"


You sense he's being badly advised. If I had to give advise to any young player looking to make their way in the game it would be to stay at Wigan, take your opportunities when they come and keep working hard. If you can't trust Wane and Wigan to bring a young player through then who can you trust? The coaches and the clubs record of junior development is second to none. The club also has a policy of allowing its players to go and try the NRL or Union which means there's always opportunities cropping up. If your path is being blocked they will allow you out on loan and even allow you to play against them (ala Logan Tomkins and Jack Hughes prior to moving on permenantly).

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Three of the next four Cas games are on t.v. which should give us all a good look at how Hampshire is performing.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Three of the next four Cas games are on t.v. which should give us all a good look at how Hampshire is performing.'"


Ben Roberts is back this week. Perhaps we wont see Hampshire at all

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Quote: NickyKiss "The one big worry I've always had with him is that he looks like he lacks a little confidence. He seems a decent lad but pretty quiet and as a halfback that's not going to make it easy to communicate. There's no doubting his natural ability. The lad is a fantastic young player but you sense his confidence has taken a hit over these past couple of years of what's seemingly been a frustrating time filling in at fullback whilst wanting to play in the halves.

It'd be nice to see what he could do in a confident Cas side which was winning and playing well but unfortunately that Cas side will probably have Dorn and Roberts in it which means he then won't be.'"


If this is true, I don't understand how any young, unproved player thinks he can dictate what position he gets selected in.

At one time, kids would just be glad to get the first team call-up. They'd play wherever they were told and be thankful for it.

Someone needs to sit the lad down and say: "Everything that happened before you arrived in SL counts for nothing. You were a schoolboy then. This is a different game altogether."

Whichever club he's at, be it Wigan or Cas, I wish he'd just knuckle down and concentrate on showing what he can do on the pitch. Only that way will his dream be fulfilled.

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Quote: bazdev "Ben Roberts is back this week. Perhaps we wont see Hampshire at all'"


Hampshire is starting at #6, no Roberts, Solomana at fullback.
No McGuire for Leeds.

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