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Quote: NickyKiss "It's taken time for him to learn at fullback but he looks to be getting there with his positional play and his link up play. I really liked the looks of him at 6 though last year. He's got a great range of passing and just offers a huge threat out of there.

Either way though he'll be one heck of a player.'"


From what I've seen of him, if he's to make a position switch to Full Back he really needs to work on his composure under the high ball. He can obviously catch, I've seen him take difficult ones, but it seems he gets flustered when under a bomb with approaching defenders. Perhaps taking his eye off the ball and bracing for the oncoming defender but forgetting his most important task - catching it. If there's one area of his game to really work on, that's it.

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Really enjoyed this mornings game, apart from a spell when NZW had a purple patch we played well for 60 minutes. I thought Sarginson was the standout player in the first half, he looks a threat every time he gets the ball. Powell's all round game was a joy to watch, completely bossed the game but it did help in the 2nd half as our forwards were on top. Bateman is a player who is going to do very well for us, he's a naturally gifted player and I'm glad he's signed with us! I don't think anyone's getting carried away regarding whats to come next week after this mornings result, it's just very pleasing to see what we have coming through and what options we have available for the long season and for the future. I'm sure the coaching staff will be very pleased and we will see the benefits in the long run regardless of what happens next week.

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Quote: Mini Rogue "Really enjoyed this mornings game, apart from a spell when NZW had a purple patch we played well for 60 minutes. I thought Sarginson was the standout player in the first half, he looks a threat every time he gets the ball. Powell's all round game was a joy to watch, completely bossed the game but it did help in the 2nd half as our forwards were on top. Bateman is a player who is going to do very well for us, he's a naturally gifted player and I'm glad he's signed with us! I don't think anyone's getting carried away regarding whats to come next week after this mornings result, it's just very pleasing to see what we have coming through and what options we have available for the long season and for the future. I'm sure the coaching staff will be very pleased and we will see the benefits in the long run regardless of what happens next week.'"



Sarge looks like the strike centre we've been missing since George left. I just hope he learns how to find his winger more and make space for his winger. At times he looks like a 'head down' centre. Reminds me a little of Marsh with that, great strong runner who needs to remember there's more to the position than head down running.

Goulding is different, doesn't have the strike of Sarge, but always makes room for his winger, looks to draw men and set Josh free when possible.

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Some of our young players are future internationals...let's hope it's not in rugby union.

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Quote: Salty "Some of our young players are future internationals...let's hope it's not in rugby union.'"


That's the sad part of watching any young player star at the moment, you are willing them to do well but not too well as you know what that will mean in a couple if years.

It's still more the NRL that worries me rather then Union tbh. We're wide open to them picking our lads off and at the end of this trip NRL scouts note books will be chocked full of notes about Hampshire, Burgess, Manfredi etc as well as more advanced players like Scott Taylor and Josh Charnley.

We've made ourselves a pretty easy target sadly and whilst you'll always lose the odd one they shouldn't be walking out the door in the numbers they are.

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Quote: BackrowSaint "From what I've seen of him, if he's to make a position switch to Full Back he really needs to work on his composure under the high ball. He can obviously catch, I've seen him take difficult ones, but it seems he gets flustered when under a bomb with approaching defenders. Perhaps taking his eye off the ball and bracing for the oncoming defender but forgetting his most important task - catching it. If there's one area of his game to really work on, that's it.'"


He's a natural 6, I can't understand why we are trying to convert him into a fullback. My view will not change, you want your best players handling the ball as frequently as possible and therefore he needs to play in the halves. If we are giving him experience this season by playing him as the last line of defence then I can live with it, but to do it long-term would surpress a natural talent.

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Quote: Sweaty Betty's "He's a natural 6, I can't understand why we are trying to convert him into a fullback. My view will not change, you want your best players handling the ball as frequently as possible and therefore he needs to play in the halves. If we are giving him experience this season by playing him as the last line of defence then I can live with it, but to do it long-term would surpress a natural talent.'"

I suspect it's because we already have two very talented halves coming through in Powell and Williams, plus Smith who could potentially be with us another 5 seasons or so

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He'll be turned in to a fulltime fullback IMO because he's perfectly suited to that position in this style of play we adopt. Since Maguire was in charge we've had two solid halfs who do a simple but effective job with an X factor style player at fullback being fed by them. It was Deacon and Leuluai then Finch came in and then on to Green and Smith. The next in line will be Sam Powell who'll partner Smith next year IMO with Hampshire taking the 1 shirt.

I'd still like to see us chance our arm though and have a Hampshire/Bowen/Tomkins style player in both the 1 and 6 positions with a solid player at 7. I think that would add more unpredictability to our play.

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Quote: Sweaty Betty's "He's a natural 6, I can't understand why we are trying to convert him into a fullback. My view will not change, you want your best players handling the ball as frequently as possible and therefore he needs to play in the halves. If we are giving him experience this season by playing him as the last line of defence then I can live with it, but to do it long-term would surpress a natural talent.'"



Lets just call it 'The Sam Tomkins effect' as a player with natural strike and pace, as a second/third reciever he can link up in the line like Sam. Sam's had amazing success as a fb now a $ millionaire playing in the NRL. Maybe Wigan see Rocky as the next Sam.

Personally with a split halves system, I'm happy with Rocky at 1.

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Quote: NickyKiss "He'll be turned in to a fulltime fullback IMO because he's perfectly suited to that position in this style of play we adopt. Since Maguire was in charge we've had two solid halfs who do a simple but effective job with an X factor style player at fullback being fed by them. It was Deacon and Leuluai then Finch came in and then on to Green and Smith. The next in line will be Sam Powell who'll partner Smith next year IMO with Hampshire taking the 1 shirt.

I'd still like to see us chance our arm though and have a Hampshire/Bowen/Tomkins style player in both the 1 and 6 positions with a solid player at 7. I think that would add more unpredictability to our play.'"


Williams is a bit of an X-Factor type player. We could see Hampshire at 1, Williams at 6, Smith at 7 and Powell used at hooker. Would be a very fast and creative spine.

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Williams is a bit of an X-Factor type player. We could see Hampshire at 1, Williams at 6, Smith at 7 and Powell used at hooker. Would be a very fast and creative spine.'"



Powell looks a better half to me. Hopefully he'll wait his turn and take his opportunity when Green leaves. Proabably at the end of the season.

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We also have Jake Shorrocks in the U19s who looks to have a lot of potential.

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Quote: dr_feelgood "We also have Jake Shorrocks in the U19s who looks to have a lot of potential.'"


Shorrocks played very well in some of the big U19 games last year (especially when you consider he was still 1st year U17's) some big decisions to be made at Wigan in the next two years!!

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When we need a new mod don't expect a call.

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Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "When we need a new mod don't expect a call.'"


Back on topic, I'm good friends with a lad who helps out with the kids at Wigan and has has been mentioning Shorrocks for a while now. He is adamant that he is going to be very special one day.

Sounds like some of the senior players like Bowen and Green are going to be under real pressure to keep their shirt in the next 12-18 months.

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