Yes, it seems we are now getting somewhere with you as well.

Most clubs in the early 90's had a 'very' large amount of players that used RL as a living (£250-500 per week). Or did you think that players around the same like Phil Veivers, Alan Hunte, Tea Ropati, Paul Loughlin, Jonathan Griffiths, Paul Bishop, Bernard Dwyer, Kevin Ward, George Mann, Shane Cooper stood on the dole queue every Thursday collecting their giro.


I will say this again....Leeds RLFC went 100% full time professional just before Wigan RLFC did.

Even now the sport is 'fair and even' Saints still can't win anything


Oh this guy must be hurting.

I have never once claimed you were the first professional club.

Saints fans going on about their short history. How many years is it since you won a major trophy? Saints & Bulls are yesterday's news.

It's all about Wigan, Wire & Leeds these days baby!!

Petty personal insults, I thought you were better than that. I suspect I am far more intelligent than the majority in here. That isn't me being arrogant, it's an educated guess based on the law of averages.

Yes you did.

If you are intelligent, you're doing a damn fine job in hiding it. If you are intelligent, then please say or do something intelligent to prove it. Thus far on this thread all you have done is back yourself into a corner and contradict yourself, and ignore comments that prove you are wrong.

Everyone is obviously a figure of speech referring to 99% of other clubs. And you question my intelligence....

Wigan didn't break any competition rules.
The results of matches played stand.
The years that trophies were won and still being won are in the history books.
That's apart from last Saturday's win in which Wigan are still writing RL history.

I don't need to justify or prove my intelligence to you. What I will say is that when someone has to stoop to the depths of petty insults and questioning intelligence levels, it would appear that they are in fact the ones that seem to be struggling.

No, everyone means everyone. If you meant the majority, say the majority. You said Wigan were the first professional club, you have since been proved wrong, and are trying to say you didn't. Have a day off sunshine.

Modern era?

5 final losses in a row.

Not won anything in 6 years.

The last time you did win anything was the same year you broke the salary cap (Fair and even indeed...)

But, as we've already discovered, facts are not your best friends.