You've got to be joking? So Andy Powell had a fight in a pub????

What's it like on top of your mountain. I bet it gets cold...and lonely?

No my point is that this fight ended his career at Wasps when Edwards was coach, not that he had a fight.

Powell also lost his place in the Wales side for being stupid off the field so my point was given Edwards was involved with both Wasps and Wales why, given both organisations did as they did, would Edwards recommend Powell or any opinion he gave at least not reflect this?

You asked if is was possible that someone from Wigan canvassed Sean's opinion and I am pointing out Powell has fallen out with both organisations Edwards has coached him with. That is all.

FWIW I was under the impression it was the Wigan fitness team who felt he was the most likely to adapt to RL given several other possible RU signings. But they weren't the ones making the decision to sign an RU player in the first place, just offering an opinion on which one was most suitable.

Disciplinary problems are hardly new to the game. Clubs take punts on players all the time. Why mention the golf buggy? It has no relevance to his ability to play RL. You say he lost his place for being "stupid". Do you want the players to take an IQ test now as well as having a RL physique? I asked whether Sean's opinion on whether AP could adapt to the game was sought. Who knows he might have said "He's a head the ball, but has got real ability". Maybe not. I brought that in because whoever did offer advice I'm sure that was given from someone suitably qualified to comment.

The same Edwards who was suspended and nearly fired from his job with Wales after a physical confrontation with one of his fellow coaches.

It's all about context.

It is and context applies to my point as well which is Edwards was a coach for both Wales and Wasps where Powell lost his place and job (it doesn't really get more serious than that) respectively due to disciplinary problems off the field. Therefore in that context it's not unreasonable to suggest if Edwards opinion was sought it might include comments on these things that occurred when he was Powell's coach.

Neither I nor the person who first suggested Edwards opinion may have been sought know if it was but I am not sure why pointing this out is such a big deal. Then again maybe I do!

I think IL has made a wonderful and astute signing... I'm really happy

You don't think driving a golf buggy down the M4 was stupid? The golf buggy incident was a reason why Cardiff let him leave as he had quote "lost his Way" after he did it. The golf buggy and the fight happened when Edwards was his coach at Wales and Wasps and had consequences for Powell as a player. So I mentioned it to suggest Edwards might at least qualify any recommendation. No driving a golf buggy up the M4 or fighting football fans doesn't say how well he will adapt to RL but it does reflect on the players professionalism which, if he was asked, is something I'd expect Edwards to mention.

Clubs do take punts on players but I don't see why we needed to employ a player who's career was cut short at two of his clubs as they were.

So you don't think any of the clubs should have took a punt on Bobb(ie)y Goulding?

Of course it was stupid. We could devote hours on this thread just to naming players who have done stupid things and it hasn't affected their ability.

But if we start moralising about who we employ on the basis of what they do when they are drunk, there'd be no one left on the staff. Powell's problem was that he got caught.

As others have said - he's worth a punt. That's all it is. If he's not up to it - no big deal.

You do seem a bit down on Sean Edwards. Is there anyone you do admire?

Is there an ignore function on here? This is a serious question, nearly every topic I open has the same person complaining, it's unbelievably tedious now...

Some ridiculous stuff on here...

I know many Wigan fans won't be old enough to remember RU converts being brought into the team, but please - Powell needs to be given more time! Even allowing for the much improved fitness regimes in RU, it is a very different game from the relentlessly aerobic challenge posed by RL.

Let's see how Powell gets on in a few months' time. He's a big unit and I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up doing more minutes per game than Feka and making a lot more impact. I don't expect him to be a worldbeater but his physical presence and big game experience offer something useful.

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ChrisA: yes but you can't ignore mods

Very sensible post.

I'm sure any reasonable person would agree.