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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Just to play devil's advocate. Does racism have to be against someone of a different coloured skin? While this type of racism is obviously the most prevalent, racism against other white cultures does exist [Commonly held ones against the French & Germans for example]. I don't feel there is a racial issue against non-uk based players. What I do feel, is that being an overseas player you will need to work harder, as the club have brought you halfway across the world to play for us. If an overseas player is not seen as pulling his weight, this will be highlighted, much quicker than a UK-based or especially Wigan-based player.

My issue with the criticism of Gelling is that it is completely unwarranted. He has yet to have a sustained run in his favoured position, and there for cannot be accurately judged, either as a potential talent or a current star. If he had been given the spot that Thornley currently holds, and after an extended run [10 matches or so] he was not showing much in the way of potential, than I could understand people getting on his back.

By no means does this make him exempt from criticism, but, I feel he comes in for harsher criticism than other players, and I feel this is unfair.'"

Racism is treating someone differently or abusively on the basis that you believe that they come from an inferior race. A race of people have the same genetic make-up. (So yes, it does mean in most cases, someone with different colour skin)

Hope that helps!

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Racism is treating someone differently or abusively on the basis that you believe that they come from an inferior race. A race of people have the same genetic make-up. (So yes, it does mean in most cases, someone with different colour skin)

Hope that helps!'"


rac·ism (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

race 1 (rs)
n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.

Race is not just skin colour.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Racism is treating someone differently or abusively on the basis that you believe that they come from an inferior race. A race of people have the same genetic make-up. (So yes, it does mean in most cases, someone with different colour skin)

Hope that helps!'"


rac·ism (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

race 1 (rs)
n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.

Race is not just skin colour.

www.thefreedictionary.com/


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Maybe Shaun Wane is racist and that is the reason he isn't being played on a regular basis or maybe just maybe it's because he thinks he isn't good enough. I tend to think it is the latter and agree with that assessment.

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Quote: Woody_woody "Maybe Shaun Wane is racist and that is the reason he isn't being played on a regular basis or maybe just maybe it's because he thinks he isn't good enough. I tend to think it is the latter and agree with that assessment.'"


That Harrison Hansen hasn't had a look in under Wane also...bet he's cursing his brown[ish] skin.

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Observing from afar and watching his performances on tv I think Gelling brings a lot of the criticism onto himself due to his level of performance.

This is a similar type of thread that you had on here for a couple of years when Karl Pryce was the great white hope. I hope that Wigan give Gelling a contract extension like they did with Pryce.

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Quote: Paul Youane "Observing from afar and watching his performances on tv I think Gelling brings a lot of the criticism onto himself due to his level of performance.

This is a similar type of thread that you had on here for a couple of years when Karl Pryce was the great white hope. I hope that Wigan give Gelling a contract extension like they did with Pryce.'"

The term "great white hope" came from the desperation to find a white heavyweight boxer good enough to beat Jack Johnson.

Hardly suitable to use it for Karl Pryce!!!!

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Quote: Paul Youane "Observing from afar and watching his performances on tv I think Gelling brings a lot of the criticism onto himself due to his level of performance.

This is a similar type of thread that you had on here for a couple of years when Karl Pryce was the great white hope. I hope that Wigan give Gelling a contract extension like they did with Pryce.'"


The lad has more heart and desire in his left nut then Pryce had in his whole body. He works hard for the team, taking in tough carries and scores as many if not more then Pryce. He's been playing top flight rugby league for about 15 games unlike Pryce who started off at Bradford at around 17 and had years under his belt before taking the easy life and money in Union.

It's a non starter to compare the two and here's hoping we extend his contract but for serious reasons rather then to give an opposition fan, desperate to see any form of Wigan failure, however small, a thrill!

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "

race 1 (rs)
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2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution

I don't know why I feel the answer to all of these could be "the population of Leigh Asda"

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Quote: NickyKiss "He's been playing top flight rugby league for about 15 games unlike Pryce who started off at Bradford at around 17 and had years under his belt before taking the easy life and money in Union.'"


Gelling is the product of two separate NRL club's development systems. He hardly came to Wigan as a rugby league novice.

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Quote: Paul Youane "Gelling is the product of two separate NRL club's development systems. He hardly came to Wigan as a rugby league novice.'"



How's Kevin Penny doing these days?

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Quote: Paul Youane "Gelling is the product of two separate NRL club's development systems. He hardly came to Wigan as a rugby league novice.'"


no he came to wigan as a bricklayer and had a bit of experience in the 2nd row never playing first grade, and he's playing better than karl pryce ever did so its a none starter. But your right i hope we do offer him a 2 year extension he's only going to fill out and become better its clear to see he can be a good player.

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Quote: dubairl "no he came to wigan as a bricklayer and had a bit of experience in the 2nd row never playing first grade, and he's playing better than karl pryce ever did so its a none starter. But your right i hope we do offer him a 2 year extension he's only going to fill out and become better its clear to see he can be a good player.'"


He got binned off by Sydney Roosters for crapping on a hotel's floor and then went to play for the NZ Warriors feeder club. I make that two NRL club's development systems but willing to count again if you think I might have mis-counted somewhere.

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Quote: Paul Youane "He got binned off by Sydney Roosters for crapping on a hotel's floor and then went to play for the NZ Warriors feeder club. I make that two NRL club's development systems but willing to count again if you think I might have mis-counted somewhere.'"


ok so he was lying when he was saying he's day job was a brick layer? he got sacked from the rooster AS A SECOND ROW and went playing part time for the vulcans who just happen to be used by the new zealand warriors. He's been played out of a position every game he's managed to get because of injuries and he looks a lot better this season than last and i am happy that he's at wigan

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Quote: Paul Youane "He got binned off by Sydney Roosters for crapping on a hotel's floor and then went to play for the NZ Warriors feeder club. I make that two NRL club's development systems but willing to count again if you think I might have mis-counted somewhere.'"



Complete rubbish.


It was a table

He s where he wants,
He s where he wants,
Anthony Gelling, he s where he wants!!

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Some nonsense on this thread.

Comparing Pryce and Gelling is just silly.

And as for the racism issue, that is deeply offensive as a suggestion.

There has been unfair and nasty criticism of particular players going on for a long time . It really is quite depressing. The worst example is the abuse aimed at Lockers for a number of years.. We have an annoying amount of idiots but they are just idiots rather than racist idiots, to be fair. There aren't many Wigan fans who don't appreciate what black players have done for our club and the game. Some of them are all time greats of rugby, not just club legends.

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