Is that a wind up?

Briers vs Finch or Tommy. Finch = SOO and NRL gf winner. Tommy = SL GF winner + WORLD CUP winner. You don't get much more experience than that. Briers has none of that.

The only reason Wigan failed this season was down to Shaun Wane and his neanderthal tactics and training methods.

Attack wins games, defence wins championships

Maguire knew that Wane doesn't.

We had NRL grand final winners, SL GF winners, Men of steel & world cup winners in our side but won sweet FA.

All because we thought we were the dogs balls in July. No point racking up points in meaningless games if you can't walk the walk in the big games.

I don't care if we won every game 4-0 as long as we won the GF.

Point a diff, derby wins, victories in June mean nothing. GF wins are the be all and end all

They are, absolutely.

But we weren't undone by our coach being a 'neanderthal'. We conceded 2 tries in 160 minutes of playoff rugby, and went out by a point after our NRL organiser in chief panicked and forgot how to play smart rugby when leading a semi final by a point with 5 minutes left.

We could easily have been there last night if we'd have been smarter in the last 10 minutes against Leeds, but that wasn't Wane's fault, so stop looking for a scapegoat in him. If we'd have swapped Sinfield for Finch in that game last week, we'd have won it.

Have I missed something??....Have we been kicked out of the league or something???....

Or god forbid, Ryan Bailey.

I must be in a huge minority and quite possibly it's just me but I think wire have been the best team in SL this year. They only finished 2nd cuz Tony Smith rotated his squad really well knowing that finishing first doesn't matter.

Anybody who think Leeds came fifth on purpose is bonkers! They'd have killed for some good form in the middle of the season. They won a 4 game knock out competition and nothing more. However, every club knew the dance before the music started to play so fair enough, the won the GF and are champions again.

My problem is that there is no intensity in the weekly rounds as coaches often say the results don't matter. That's a bad place for our game to be. The top of the league should be the holy grail of our competition and our game as a whole is suffering.

As for Wigan, I'd have taken league leaders and 2 semi's in 2012 if I'd been offered it in 2009 so we're in better shape than we were then. Hopefully Wane has learned a lot and we'll improve next year.

No we lost because Wane beasted them in training.

Finch, Tomkins, Hansen & Lima all injured in training. Add to that Lockers at 6 and 9 instead of players being better.

OTT comments in the press and going OTT in June instead of October.

He's a poor excuse and a poor replacement for a World Class coach like Madge.

Bloody hell , talk about being selective , we are better than we were in 2009.... what about 2010=SL Champions, 2011=CC Winners...we are in a worse state than we have been for the past 2 seasons, and i for one cannot see us doing any better next season , especially with Shaun Wane at the helm

Get a grip.

Did you really expect Wigan to make the impact they made in the 2010 and 2011 seasons this year? After losing the likes of Deacon, Hoffman and Joel.. Our squad simply wasn't as good as the squad from last year and the year before even, Madge i agree had a MASSIVE effect on our campaign but Wane isn't necessarily bringing the club down, fair enough he's made a few boo-boos but its his FIRST year in charge of a clubs first team! Get off his back he's done more than i expected this season.

Also, We beat Saints Three times out of Four! Included the Manchester Massacre.. There's been some special moments this year, And i'm sure there'll be more under Waney.

Hail Hail!

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