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| Whilst I'm not saying using foul language is a particularly nice thing to do or anything to be proud off. It's something that I've just accepted as part of the game since I started watching any sport. And when I was younger I understood that using those words was "naughty" and didn't join in with that kinda stuff until I was older. You can argue till the cows come home that bad language should be a bannable offence at a sporting event or whatever but, no matter what "competitive" sport you are watching live, where people are allowed to drink it's going to happen. Maybe take up snooker or crown green bowling and you won't have to worry about being offended by fans chants.
Of course the club aren't going to come out and say "oh it's fine, swear, be violent do whatever you want" but if they started kicking everyone out who says the odd F word during a match there'd be few people in the grounds at all.
I'll be honest enough to admit that I occasionally use the F word at the rugby (although If I know there are really young kids nearby I do keep a lid on it), but I certainly don't use other "stronger words" which are unnecessary. It's just an instant reaction along with the frustration that you feel in tight tense games. and I bet a lot of people on here have reacted in a similar fashion too and used the F word at a game when you've been on the pop and a call hasn't gone our way. Now if you are talking about people doing nothing but using foul and abusive language for 80 minutes non stop and being really over the top then I'd probably feel a bit annoyed to, but I'm really surprised that the "five times in a row" chant has bothered you so much when all rugby teams have been singing songs far worse than that for as long as I can remember.
I bet your kids hear far far worse on the streets and in school. I can't believe people are gettin so upset about the F word. if we ever start hearing Racist chant's (I doubt we will, and and certainly hope we dont) then we will have something to be offended about.
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| Time and place i suppose
I swear all the time, it's just natural but i know when not to.
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| Quote: Jimofwigan "Once again I took my family to see my team play our arch rivals Saint Helens. I think I will need surgery to wipe the smile off my face at this hard fought win. Well done to Wigan's best defensive effort this season.
I was totally shocked at the foul mouthed chant of five in a row. Come on lads there is no need for the explitive F word. You could used bottled it, Blew it , threw it, or anything else. If you can't come up with a chant that uses clean language ,just forget it get on with your lives and leave it to someone that can.
The stewards bottled it by not telling them. Why play a tape every match telling us this is a family sport and that foul and abusive language is not acceptable and let the idiots Effing a chant get away with no warning. I say to these people who think this sort of language is common and OK that quite simply it is not. We had 7, 8 and 5 year old children listing to what is totally unacceptable language.
ALL I ASK IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO RUN WIGAN WARRIORS PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH AND DO THEIR JOB'"
Can not believe this has got 7 pages so far. Its a sports game swearing happens. Either your a Saints fan pretending tb be a Warrior (and who can blame you) or you do not get out much.
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| Ifthe stadium announcements say don't swear. Then it's simple.
Don't swear.
In the past they didn't say don't swear.
If you can't express yourself without swearing then you need to get a life.
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| Quote: tank123 "Can not believe this has got 7 pages so far. '"
Nor can I.
Quote: tank123 "Its a sports game swearing happens. '"
It's not mandatory, and since I take my kids I'd prefer that it didn't. What reason can anyone possibly have for preferring it did?
Quote: tank123 "Either your a Saints fan pretending tb be a Warrior (and who can blame you) or you do not get out much.'"
Because a true Warrior would actively promote swearing at a so-called family event. Actually, going by the responses in this thread you might just be right.
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| A good bench mark in this type of argument is:
Would you swear at your kids at home (the f word)?
If you don't because you don't want to set a bad example, yet swear at a rugby ground in front of other kids, it seems a bit hypocritical.
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| Quote: MattyB "Again, I will state that abusive chanting was rife in the eighties, this isn't a new thing. Probably even worse as we had racist chanting thrown in as well...(at least we didn't get bananas thrown on the pitch yesterday, like we saw thrown at Knowsley Road years back).
And let's not get misty eyed about how trouble free games at Central Park were(and on the road). Some of the worst violence I've ever seen in my life at RL games were back in the mid-late 80's / early 90's.'"
Just because there has been swearing in the past doesn't make it right. There were genuine complaints yesterday and the stewards calmly asked people to cut out the bad language. Don't be surprised if they decide to start ejecting people in future.
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| Quote: nohalfbacks "Just because there has been swearing in the past doesn't make it right. There were genuine complaints yesterday and the stewards calmly asked people to cut out the bad language. Don't be surprised if they decide to start ejecting people in future.'"
cant wait for Hull to visit next year, the north stand will be empty before half time.....lol
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| get a grip...
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| What has being a woman got to do with liking/disliking swear words??
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| Also, there is a time and a place. Rugby matches are not just for kids, kids just happen to be there. Now if somebody went to the Wacky Warehouse or a kid's party and started throwing about swear words and chanting songs with swear words in, then yes I would agree. Kids WILL hear swear words all over the place, whether it's in songs, on the T.V., in the playground, at home, walking down the street etc. Infact, most kids swear when they're with their friends and just don't swear infront of their parents or families. I certainly did, as did many of the people at my primary school and high school. The argument about there being a high percentage of women there, and women not liking swear words and a woman should not hear a swear word... That's absolute rubbish. Are we now in the 1920's???
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| I have to say I agree with the original post. I don't like the F word in our songs when my 7 year old is there. He's never heard it from me and neither has my wife etc. it's about personal values and mine are such that I don't swear in front of kids and women. I'm not saying my values ar right or anybody else's are wrong but that's the way I am and I hope my son grows up with the same level of respect for others.
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| I think the point the O/P was trying to make was why make up a chant that is offensive?
Some chants that have been around forever such as "the referee's a w****r" probably offend very few people despite the bad language.
I am guessing the O/P ignores things like "the referee's a w****r" and isn't offended by them but took exception to the chant in question and that is fair enough if he thought a line had been crossed.
Whether the club would react and do anything is hard to say. They would [ihave[/i to react to racist chanting and people would expect them to. If some new chant was offensive (as opposed to racist) so over stepped the mark and the club did react people could not complain given the rules. So I think anyone who thinks they can make up chants chock full of expletives and it will be ignored because swearing is part of the game might be surprised.
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| Quote: nohalfbacks "Just because there has been swearing in the past doesn't make it right. There were genuine complaints yesterday and the stewards calmly asked people to cut out the bad language. Don't be surprised if they decide to start ejecting people in future.'"
Not a problem with that at all. How do the stewards choose which to eject and which ones not to? There must have been a few thousand singing that song yesterday?
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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "I have to say I agree with the original post. I don't like the F word in our songs when my 7 year old is there. He's never heard it from me and neither has my wife etc. it's about personal values and mine are such that I don't swear in front of kids and women. I'm not saying my values ar right or anybody else's are wrong but that's the way I am and I hope my son grows up with the same level of respect for others.'"
I never swear infront of my parents or family, and I certainly don't walk round the streets swearing at people. Sometimes I swear when watching football and rugby, sometimes I swear when I am talking with friends, and I do join in with the chants at the rugby which have swear words in. But by your logic, this means I don't have respect for others.
People pay their money to go to the match, and can say what they like. Obviously I don't agree with racism or violence. But it's freedom of speech at the end of the day, and it's just a different choice of language.
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