I don't know off the top of my head,you tell me.

whatever figure you give what I said still stands doesn't it?

Of course it still stands, did i say otherwise... Its just that you don't come here bragging in a position of strength...

There's no bragging from this one, just pointing something out. Losing 5 finals leaves you little to brag about, but if other teams want to remind us of that then it's only fair it's evened up is it not?

We weren't bragging, just mocking

You take 2011 playoffs.

I'll gladly take 2011 CC semi.




Oh. And 2010 GF (you know the one - where we absolutely ravaged you).

Difference is, they won the play-off semi and then didn't win the final. Nobody will remember that saints came second. We won the cup semi... then won the final, we are still the current holders.

Throw in the 2010 GF along with the last derby at Knowsley Road and the first and Langtree park... I think we have had the better of saints in the derby over the last few years.

2 Trophies in 2 years.

Beat Saints in one Final and the Semi-Final of the other.

You have nothing to show for your Semi-Final wins, though.

Not true, they've got a song.

3 trophies if you believe the Wire fans that the hubcaps a biggy!

But half of them now say it's just a "pre-season", so even they aren't sure what they think!

I was at the St Helens match with my family and was disgusted at the language used in this chant. Rugby league is still a family sport and needs to stop as one. Foul language in chants is not required . The humour of the chant would not be lost if you droped the F word. When you have children you will know what I mean.

You make a good point, how about
" You really bottled it "
" Five times in a row "

My god, grow a pair of balls. Bad language is everywhere in every day life. If you think it's a family sport, please never take your kids to games against teams such as: Hull, Leeds, Hull KR, Hull, Warrington, Saints, Hull, Wakefield, Cas, Hull, Salford and Hull.