Hardly, last year I stated that finishing top of the league is a bigger achievement than winning the CC which it is, and last year obviously you lot couldn't accept that. You tried to belittle our achievement and some of you even insisted you would rather finished 2nd and win the CC. One year later and your attitude has changed completely, now according to some Wire folk finishing top of the league now means your champions, its bigger than the CC and GF doesn't matter as your already champions.

Congrats on the League leaders, its a good achievement but at no point are you champions yet. I get the feeling with some wire fans that no matter who wins the GF, they will think they are true champions despite the fact we have had this system for years now.

Could you find some quotes about the above because I have missed them.

Cheers

By the way I would rather of won the CC again then win the league/Shield/league toppers pop tart or whatever its called.

So it's "just a feeling" then rather than anyone actually saying we will be the SL Champions no matter who wins at OT. Don't talk wet. Last year you lot also spent a long time telling us how much better the LLS was when we had won the cup both years, yet all of a sudden the cup is worth winning again, and the LLS is just a plastic pot.

These things work both ways mate, shame you can't see it through your cherry and white specs.

There's already been enough warnings (3 on the last page alone from myself and JTB) about derailing this thread into a WIgan v Dire measuring competition. Stop it or the next person will have the privilege of taking my moderator cherry.

A simple Congrats on your attendances from a jealous saints fan.

The attendance for the Cru game was simply amazing.

Hope i am not going off topic here but what are Saints hoping to get next season? I know John Wilkinson at Salford is looking at around 8,000, should get more than that surely at your new stadium.

I should think that saints will be getting around 11,000 12,000 for next year? They will have many of the die hard regulars back and also those interested in the new stadium etc. Should be a good year with the new stadiums, now just cas, wakey, leeds to build and or fix their stadiums.

Leeds plans for the south stand are on hold due to finance problems.

I thought the council had agreed to help with said problems as a "loan".

Id also put Bradford in that aswell. How that ground meets the super league standards is beyond me. Theres so much that can be done to the ground but it still looks the same as it did 30 years ago.

Got to agree, solid foundations and it's a real shame their plans didn't come off for the Bradford Sports Village(or whatever it was called) as that would have been great, the plans seemed outstanding.

Hull KR can be added to that list of grounds that need fixing, any others?

Ring fence got a hole in it then?